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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 7814286" data-attributes="member: 996"><p>It wasn't a terrible idea, just a terrible initial implementation, a prime example of a genuinely-broken rule. SCs got /easier/ the higher the complexity and the greater the supposed challenge! OOPS!</p><p>It over-compensated with the first update, and was useable after that. The RC version was comparatively polished, even. It aimed higher and improved more in two years than D&D had in the previous 30. (I mean, you're willing to credit the desultory NWP system to 1e, when that was /9 years/ into it's run, and fairly obscure, but want to judge 4e SCs by their state at release, not even a few months in? If you did that to 1e, you'd judge it based on the MM, alone.)</p><p>But it was never developed to anywhere near potential.</p><p></p><p>Oh, wait, or do you mean getting the whole party engaged in a challenge instead of one specialist character dominating play outside of combat was a terrible idea?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 7814286, member: 996"] It wasn't a terrible idea, just a terrible initial implementation, a prime example of a genuinely-broken rule. SCs got /easier/ the higher the complexity and the greater the supposed challenge! OOPS! It over-compensated with the first update, and was useable after that. The RC version was comparatively polished, even. It aimed higher and improved more in two years than D&D had in the previous 30. (I mean, you're willing to credit the desultory NWP system to 1e, when that was /9 years/ into it's run, and fairly obscure, but want to judge 4e SCs by their state at release, not even a few months in? If you did that to 1e, you'd judge it based on the MM, alone.) But it was never developed to anywhere near potential. Oh, wait, or do you mean getting the whole party engaged in a challenge instead of one specialist character dominating play outside of combat was a terrible idea? [/QUOTE]
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