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<blockquote data-quote="Lanefan" data-source="post: 7814319" data-attributes="member: 29398"><p>More on this...</p><p>At that time. Nothing is said (either way) about later attempts at a different level, at different intelligence, or even just off of a different scroll.</p><p></p><p>This is still only referring to that initial roll-through*.</p><p></p><p>I don't read it that way.</p><p></p><p>* - this initial roll-through is something we've never done, as it in fact turns out to be an unnecessary and redundant step (actually, come to think of it the whole idea of minimum knowable per level is redundant).</p><p></p><p>At first level you get Read Magic (automatic) plus one random spell off each of the three lists as shown in the DMG (I almost always give a 5th completely random spell, this is a DMG option). That's it. After that, there's no need to roll comprehension until-unless a new spell is encountered - be it on a scroll, in a spellbook, traded from another MU, or wherever - at which point if the player/PC decides to try to understand/learn the spell a roll is given.</p><p></p><p>So, if a MU starts out with Read Magic, Charm Person, Hold Portal, Identify and Featherfall then later encounters Magic Missile on a scroll and tries to copy/learn it, only then is a roll made to comprehend MM.</p><p>Let's say her max limit is 9 spells per level; she gets MM, so now she's at 6 firsts - lots of headroom. </p><p></p><p>Next adventure she finds a scroll that has Nystul's Aura, Detect Magic, Tenser's Disc, Mending, and Write. She can only end up learning three of those before she hits her ceiling, and might even want to leave a spot open in case she ever finds this Sleep spell she keeps hearing about. So she prioritizes the five on the scroll, and starts studying and copying. She blows Detect Magic, then succeeds on Write and Tenser's Disc and is at 8 spells known.</p><p></p><p>Now, she's got a choice to make: does she keep that last spot open for Sleep, or does she go for Mending right now?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lanefan, post: 7814319, member: 29398"] More on this... At that time. Nothing is said (either way) about later attempts at a different level, at different intelligence, or even just off of a different scroll. This is still only referring to that initial roll-through*. I don't read it that way. * - this initial roll-through is something we've never done, as it in fact turns out to be an unnecessary and redundant step (actually, come to think of it the whole idea of minimum knowable per level is redundant). At first level you get Read Magic (automatic) plus one random spell off each of the three lists as shown in the DMG (I almost always give a 5th completely random spell, this is a DMG option). That's it. After that, there's no need to roll comprehension until-unless a new spell is encountered - be it on a scroll, in a spellbook, traded from another MU, or wherever - at which point if the player/PC decides to try to understand/learn the spell a roll is given. So, if a MU starts out with Read Magic, Charm Person, Hold Portal, Identify and Featherfall then later encounters Magic Missile on a scroll and tries to copy/learn it, only then is a roll made to comprehend MM. Let's say her max limit is 9 spells per level; she gets MM, so now she's at 6 firsts - lots of headroom. Next adventure she finds a scroll that has Nystul's Aura, Detect Magic, Tenser's Disc, Mending, and Write. She can only end up learning three of those before she hits her ceiling, and might even want to leave a spot open in case she ever finds this Sleep spell she keeps hearing about. So she prioritizes the five on the scroll, and starts studying and copying. She blows Detect Magic, then succeeds on Write and Tenser's Disc and is at 8 spells known. Now, she's got a choice to make: does she keep that last spot open for Sleep, or does she go for Mending right now? [/QUOTE]
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