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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Garthanos" data-source="post: 7815287" data-attributes="member: 82504">The rogues double jump is high level if you choose it ( that 22 is perhaps a 5e ,16) but you can do your normal running jump without a run and possibly exceed your speed via skill power (and with a 1 square bonus via the power and possibly a good roll) early on even at level 2 -- its basically heroes who specialize can do a nice burst once per encounter and do the pretty extensive skill and attribute advancement in 4e even the baseline  is not static you get better. Paragon is one square farther. Epic ends at 2 squares farther.And as for primacy of magic ? In 4e add on a pair of magic boots and get 3 squares more once per encounter (instead of 1 from the low level skill power). The 5e standing jump is more than a bit conservative aka mundane with nobody but the maximumly pumped barbarian reliably hitting olympic class standing jumps till level 20 and has been pointed out no clue what a skill check might do ... no shared expectations created.</blockquote>