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<blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 8426412" data-attributes="member: 93670">Oh they published them... but they didn't change any rules to support the themes and tone of those settings.&nbsp;&nbsp; The closest they were willing to do was a couple more race/class/feat additions to a core system still tuned to epic heroic fantasy.&nbsp; At the core 5e is timed for a specific type of game using 5es baselines and it goes a step further by coding against attempts at small changes away from that.&nbsp; Heck vrgtr didn't include spell changes or even rest mechanic changes &amp; because they pegged classes to different rest schedules with an encounter budget leagues beyond all but the grindiest grondfests they really cant do that without changing a bunch of classes.&nbsp; Can you imagine darksun with Outlander goodberru create food &amp; water etc and PCs who start at least one with gear that can only be described as pre-cleansing war legendary assortments far beyond what they should ever be able to find on most shops?... I can but not sure how it could be called dark sin or athas as opposed to some random desert in fr.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="tetrasodium, post: 8426412, member: 93670"] Oh they published them... but they didn't change any rules to support the themes and tone of those settings. The closest they were willing to do was a couple more race/class/feat additions to a core system still tuned to epic heroic fantasy. At the core 5e is timed for a specific type of game using 5es baselines and it goes a step further by coding against attempts at small changes away from that. Heck vrgtr didn't include spell changes or even rest mechanic changes & because they pegged classes to different rest schedules with an encounter budget leagues beyond all but the grindiest grondfests they really cant do that without changing a bunch of classes. Can you imagine darksun with Outlander goodberru create food & water etc and PCs who start at least one with gear that can only be described as pre-cleansing war legendary assortments far beyond what they should ever be able to find on most shops?... I can but not sure how it could be called dark sin or athas as opposed to some random desert in fr. [/QUOTE]

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