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<blockquote data-quote="Gaiden" data-source="post: 165403" data-attributes="member: 103">Plane Sailing - come on, cut me some slack <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />.&nbsp; Traditional smackdowns are at 16th level and this guy just took out a great wyrm!!!&nbsp; (Also I said:&nbsp; &quot;lowest&quot;, not low) ;P.&nbsp; If you want to know, I orginally made the smack at 7th level.&nbsp; However, when I tried to get all arrogant and have him beat a black great wyrm dragon, I realized the smack was going to be laid down on him rather than by him.&nbsp; So I then upped it to 8th to see if I could pull it off.&nbsp; Still didn't work so I had to make him 9th.&nbsp; Once he was 9th I figured I would go all out and make the dragon a red great wyrm.&nbsp; btw - That cleric level with charm domain and divine might feat was what topped it off.Seriously speaking though.&nbsp; When calculating smackdowns, you must adjust damage for hit percentage and must calculate average values, not only maximums/criticals of all values.&nbsp; I am not looking for what ifs with statistical probabilities of around 1 in 100000, but true low level powerhouses that are guaranteed to dish it out.&nbsp; On that note, as far as I am concerned, the 2nd level bard with maxed diplomacy still takes the cake as the coolest low level smackdown of all time.Gaiden</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Gaiden, post: 165403, member: 103"] Plane Sailing - come on, cut me some slack :). Traditional smackdowns are at 16th level and this guy just took out a great wyrm!!! (Also I said: "lowest", not low) ;P. If you want to know, I orginally made the smack at 7th level. However, when I tried to get all arrogant and have him beat a black great wyrm dragon, I realized the smack was going to be laid down on him rather than by him. So I then upped it to 8th to see if I could pull it off. Still didn't work so I had to make him 9th. Once he was 9th I figured I would go all out and make the dragon a red great wyrm. btw - That cleric level with charm domain and divine might feat was what topped it off. Seriously speaking though. When calculating smackdowns, you must adjust damage for hit percentage and must calculate average values, not only maximums/criticals of all values. I am not looking for what ifs with statistical probabilities of around 1 in 100000, but true low level powerhouses that are guaranteed to dish it out. On that note, as far as I am concerned, the 2nd level bard with maxed diplomacy still takes the cake as the coolest low level smackdown of all time. Gaiden [/QUOTE]

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