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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Gaiden" data-source="post: 167404" data-attributes="member: 103">jontherev, I must say, you sincerely irritate me.  The invisibility was for your hide check before you dimensional door.  I have mistakenly added the +2 to the attacks afterwards.  I fail to see how you would not let the character surprise the dragon when as soon as he pops out of thin air he is armed and ready.  Think of it this way:  lets say a character with standard invisibility attacks opponent A and becomes visible.  Opponent B sees him.  Opponent B is still surprised even though he can see the PC.  When you dimensional door within 5' of someone and you are planning on attacking them, you are going to surprise them.  Because opponent is becoming aware of you as you are acting.  Regardless of whether you like this logic or not you could simply rule that the PC readies an action to attack the dragon as soon as he casts DD with his hasted partial action.  If you disagree with the ruling on the use of the partial action while having a hasted action, just have the character have an additional scroll where he can become ethereal/astral such that blindsight is ineffective and have him voluntarily end the spell next round after readying an action to attack the dragon as soon as the spell is dismissed.  Btw, if you enforce the necessity of the readied action he would still get the extra attack from expert tactician reducing the damage by only 106 (from the missed one attack) which would still kill the dragon. If you read the rest of my post you will realize I did not include the flank bonus for the dragon:Second, you will notice all of the attacks made by the familiar are ranged attacks and thus the size of the familiar does not matter.Flanking bonus was never included, the invisibility problem is solved by simply reducing the to hit bonus by 2, and you still caught the dragon by surprise - if you want to be anal, you can rule the coexistant plane method of travel with readied actions.  However, no matter what, the PC CAN surprise the dragon.Again, simply a case of irritation.  The 32 was an obvious typo.  It should have read 22 which was obvious from the rough calculations already made.  I completely agree that most sensible DMs would not allow it in their games.  However, this was a smack where any D&D product goes, so their legal.Already went over the surprise.  BTW, if you still have a problem with it, just tell me what spell is necessary to get close enough to surprise the dragon, and give the PC a scroll of that spell so we can avoid further silliness.OH BUT IT DOES MATTER WHAT THE CRESCENT KNIFE SAYS.  The crescent knife reads that each attack is resolved as two separate attacks.  Therefore the true strike which applies to one attack is resolved with both of the two separate attacks.  Feel free to house rule it, but the weapon makes it clear that you are actually only making one attack.  You may call my reading of the rules an interpretation, but again, this is a smackdown.  If it is not clear one way or the other, let it stand - afterall, this is meant to be broken.You think smackdowns are made to make sense.  Of course its absurd.  Just think about this.  You think a standard size tanglefoot bag is going to have enough volume to compeletely affect a GREAT WYRM RED DRAGON.  No of course not.  This is simply abusing the rules.  Now let's say the familiar is a cat.  Don't forget its got the bull's str because of the share spells ability.  Oh...you did forget about that didn't you.  Also, the dragon is only 5' away.  So with its added str, it should be able to throw a 4lb bag 5'.  Even if its str was 1 to start out with and got a +3, it now has a 4 str.  More than enough to throw the 4lb bag 5'.Well, no chocolate colored fudge Sherlock.  That's why they were quickened when made on the scroll.  If you truly have a problem with this just simply have the character pay a craftsman to modify the helmet to add a third straw and get two more potions of true strike.  NOT A BIG DEAL.Nope.  He used his move equivalent action to move the helm his partial action from haste to throw the acid vile and his standard action to ready.  Didn't you know?  Readying is a standard action, so you can get a move equivalent along with it.  Oh, and when you are hasted, that means an additional partial action. As I pointed out, you are wrong.I am hoping you can figure out why I am so pissed at you.  Rather than assuming I am a 5 year old moron who has no concept of the rules, give me the benefit of the doubt.  For example the quickened scrolls of true strike.  Do you honestly think I was thinking that he would cast a standard scroll of true strike quickened somehow?!?!?  The scroll was scribed quickened so that all the user of the scroll needs to do is but complete the spell (as a quickened action).  And like I said, if you have a problem with this than give me the benefit of the doubt.  He simply needs to be able to drink one more potion of true strike, and already has a way to do it as a free action.  Lets simply say he summoned some creature with a wand of summoning that sits on his other shoulder during the whole combat and reloads potions in the helm/rotates them for free action drinking.  I did not spend all of the wealth a standard 9th level character gets so these extra scrolls are not a big deal.  Finally please don't take on the lecturing patronizing tone.  I have been playing this game for a very long time and am very familiar with standard D&D rules.  The smackdown, is every bit as devastating as I make it out to be.</blockquote>

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