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<blockquote data-quote="Pielorinho" data-source="post: 125603" data-attributes="member: 259">Good catch!&nbsp; I also just realized that they'd need quick draw for this tactic.&nbsp; So, a change:These warriors have point-blank shot and quickdraw as feats.&nbsp; They get a -4 penalty to hit with shuriken for not being proficient?&nbsp; Too dang bad for them!&nbsp; They'll only hit on a natural 20, and a good 15% of them are going to fall prey to poison damage anyway.On the down side, that means Mr. AC only has 12 DC26 saves to make (well, slightly more:&nbsp; my 3rd-level and above warriors will get the rapid shot feat).On the up side, each of those hits will do an extra point of damage.&nbsp; Whoopee.And just for fun, my 17th-level cohort will also take the leadership feat, as will her 16th-level cohort, and all the way down.&nbsp; These folks will all have mass hastes memorized , meaning that my followers will pretty quickly all be hasted, getting their attacks back up to 6/rnd.Anyway, it's pretty hard to make 12 straight DC24 saves, especially if you've pumped all your stat points into non-CON abilities.&nbsp; If he fails even three of these, he'll almost certainly be paralyzed.Daniel</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Pielorinho, post: 125603, member: 259"] Good catch! I also just realized that they'd need quick draw for this tactic. So, a change: These warriors have point-blank shot and quickdraw as feats. They get a -4 penalty to hit with shuriken for not being proficient? Too dang bad for them! They'll only hit on a natural 20, and a good 15% of them are going to fall prey to poison damage anyway. On the down side, that means Mr. AC only has 12 DC26 saves to make (well, slightly more: my 3rd-level and above warriors will get the rapid shot feat). On the up side, each of those hits will do an extra point of damage. Whoopee. And just for fun, my 17th-level cohort will also take the leadership feat, as will her 16th-level cohort, and all the way down. These folks will all have mass hastes memorized , meaning that my followers will pretty quickly all be hasted, getting their attacks back up to 6/rnd. Anyway, it's pretty hard to make 12 straight DC24 saves, especially if you've pumped all your stat points into non-CON abilities. If he fails even three of these, he'll almost certainly be paralyzed. Daniel [/QUOTE]

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