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<blockquote data-quote="Yaarel" data-source="post: 7213120" data-attributes="member: 58172"><p>[MENTION=6801229]rgoodbb[/MENTION]</p><p></p><p>Great input.</p><p></p><p>Yeah, it is important to focus on desire, what players actually *want*. It helps give clues to aspects that one might not notice at first.</p><p></p><p>6th-level spells introduce the category of ‘Setup’ spells. These are spells that are less useful to prepare because of their extensive casting time, significant prerequisite, or their stationary result that cant move around during adventure. It includes rituals because of their extensive casting time. Despite this investment, the spell effects can be very useful.</p><p></p><p>Normally, one casts a Setup spell during downtime before adventuring, or during rests between encounters while adventuring. It tends to be less useful to prepare a Setup spell for unknown encounters, and it can be painful to choose it as one of the few known spells.</p><p></p><p>I updated 1st-level spells with the Setup category. Find Familiar is one of these spells with an extensive casting time, but with a very useful effect. The sacrifice is painful. A Bard who chooses Find Familiar as one of the limited known spells, is essentially permanently expending a known spell, for the ability to have a Familiar. But if the Bard is prepared to do this, Find Familiar is an Excellent choice. The Familiar is versatile, useful for stealth and reconnaissance, and for offense for delivering Touch spells. The Familiar requires alot of investment to function well, but can be worth the effort.</p><p></p><p>I too love Disguise Self. I think it is powerful for the same reason Illusion is powerful, a player in a trickster mindset can exploit it. As a disguise, the spell offers a kind of invisibility, and as an impersonation can wreak havoc. It is a decent spell. Especially, in the context of Social encounters, it can be Good.</p><p></p><p>The feeling is, Disguise Self may be underestimated, and it moves a distance from Not Bad to Good. If anyone objects. Speak now.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Yaarel, post: 7213120, member: 58172"] [MENTION=6801229]rgoodbb[/MENTION] Great input. Yeah, it is important to focus on desire, what players actually *want*. It helps give clues to aspects that one might not notice at first. 6th-level spells introduce the category of ‘Setup’ spells. These are spells that are less useful to prepare because of their extensive casting time, significant prerequisite, or their stationary result that cant move around during adventure. It includes rituals because of their extensive casting time. Despite this investment, the spell effects can be very useful. Normally, one casts a Setup spell during downtime before adventuring, or during rests between encounters while adventuring. It tends to be less useful to prepare a Setup spell for unknown encounters, and it can be painful to choose it as one of the few known spells. I updated 1st-level spells with the Setup category. Find Familiar is one of these spells with an extensive casting time, but with a very useful effect. The sacrifice is painful. A Bard who chooses Find Familiar as one of the limited known spells, is essentially permanently expending a known spell, for the ability to have a Familiar. But if the Bard is prepared to do this, Find Familiar is an Excellent choice. The Familiar is versatile, useful for stealth and reconnaissance, and for offense for delivering Touch spells. The Familiar requires alot of investment to function well, but can be worth the effort. I too love Disguise Self. I think it is powerful for the same reason Illusion is powerful, a player in a trickster mindset can exploit it. As a disguise, the spell offers a kind of invisibility, and as an impersonation can wreak havoc. It is a decent spell. Especially, in the context of Social encounters, it can be Good. The feeling is, Disguise Self may be underestimated, and it moves a distance from Not Bad to Good. If anyone objects. Speak now. [/QUOTE]
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