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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Yaarel" data-source="post: 7243505" data-attributes="member: 58172">You make a number of excellent observations. Let me process them a bit at a time.You recommend moving the Guidance cantrip to Excellent because it is awesome out of combat. Ok, fair enough.Conjure <s>Cuatl</s> Celestial 7 to 6th-level. That is helpful. The Cuatl is CR 4 and that seems appropriate for a 6th-level spell slot. (Re Conjure Beasts, a 3rd-level slot conjures CR 2.)You recommend moving Entangle to 2nd-level.Funny enough, I was thinking Entangle 1 and Web 2 seem similar.The benefit of Web is, it remains sticky for the duration. Thus creatures can get stuck in it later, becoming restrained. By contrast, with Entangle, there is only a one-time entanglement. Creatures entering afterward get slowed because of the terrain, but they dont get entangled.The stickiness of Web is somewhat of a wash, since yes new hostiles can get stuck in it later, but so can team caster.Hypothetically, a hostile that got stuck in the Web could make a successful check to break free, and then when trying to move thru its difficult terrain fail to exit the Web thus potentially becoming stuck again in it. This would rarely happen because even if they were in the center of it, it is only 10 feet of difficult terrain, which speed 30 can normally escape with 10 feet left to move after exit.So, it depends on where the Web is. If the caster gets most or all of the area of the Web between oneself and the hostiles, then Web becomes a highly effective barrier. A creature trying to cross the full distance might get repeatedly stuck in it. Many creatures would avoid trying to cross.Web is a better barrier than Entangle. The terrain of Entangle can eat up a round of movement. Web can do this too while adding an additional threat to restrain.If most combats only last a few rounds, then eating a round of movement is significant. So Entangle may be almost as effective as Web after all.With these comparisons in mind, do you still feel Entangle should move to 2nd level near Web?</blockquote>

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