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<blockquote data-quote="Yaarel" data-source="post: 7248053" data-attributes="member: 58172"><p>Currently these are the rankings.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><strong><span style="color: #0000CD">1st-level Spells</span></strong></p><p></p><p><strong>Good</strong></p><p>Hideous Laughter 1</p><p></p><p><strong>Excellent</strong></p><p>Irresistable Dance 6</p><p>Entangle 1</p><p></p><p><strong><span style="color: #0000CD">2nd-level Spells</span></strong></p><p></p><p><strong>Setup</strong></p><p><em>−good</em></p><p>Plant Growth 3</p><p></p><p><strong>Good</strong></p><p>Web 2</p><p></p><p><strong>Excellent</strong></p><p>Spike Growth 2</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I am torn about these spells.</p><p></p><p>I am open to moving spells to a higher level. (I originally intended to use the gold color for a broken spell.) But in the case of <strong>Spike Growth</strong> and <strong>Entangle</strong>, there seems too little excitement about them for them to be suspected to be too powerful. Compare for example, a spell that really is broken, such as when Moonbeam was misunderstood, or even with <strong>Conjure Woodland Creatures - Pixies</strong>. Eight Pixies at once are broken. Despite their 1 hp, making them glass canons, their spells and flight make them difficult to hit, and their CR seems underestimated. When a spell really is broken, there tends to be a widespread buzz about it. Spike Growth and Entangle seem to be missing that. They are awesome spells but seem to be safe and fair in their current levels, compared to the spells around them.</p><p></p><p>Possibly, Conjure Woodland Beings splits into a Pixies versioin and No-Pixies version, and rank separately? Maybe better, put a note to − Treat Pixies ≈ CR ½ (or 1)? Maybe split all conjure spells per notable creature?</p><p></p><p>For <strong>Plant Growth</strong>, it ranks as Setup because wide open outdoors is a significant prerequisite/requirement. It is a Good choice if there. But it is hard for me to rank it better. I look at the <strong>Rope Trick</strong> spell. If I had to choose between preparing Rope Trick and Plant Growth, I would rather pick Rope Trick. Heh, I feel bad, but I seem unable to get enthusiastic about Plant Growth.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Yaarel, post: 7248053, member: 58172"] Currently these are the rankings. [B][COLOR=#0000CD]1st-level Spells[/COLOR][/B] [B]Good[/B] Hideous Laughter 1 [B]Excellent[/B] Irresistable Dance 6 Entangle 1 [B][COLOR=#0000CD]2nd-level Spells[/COLOR][/B] [B]Setup[/B] [I]−good[/I] Plant Growth 3 [B]Good[/B] Web 2 [B]Excellent[/B] Spike Growth 2 I am torn about these spells. I am open to moving spells to a higher level. (I originally intended to use the gold color for a broken spell.) But in the case of [B]Spike Growth[/B] and [B]Entangle[/B], there seems too little excitement about them for them to be suspected to be too powerful. Compare for example, a spell that really is broken, such as when Moonbeam was misunderstood, or even with [B]Conjure Woodland Creatures - Pixies[/B]. Eight Pixies at once are broken. Despite their 1 hp, making them glass canons, their spells and flight make them difficult to hit, and their CR seems underestimated. When a spell really is broken, there tends to be a widespread buzz about it. Spike Growth and Entangle seem to be missing that. They are awesome spells but seem to be safe and fair in their current levels, compared to the spells around them. Possibly, Conjure Woodland Beings splits into a Pixies versioin and No-Pixies version, and rank separately? Maybe better, put a note to − Treat Pixies ≈ CR ½ (or 1)? Maybe split all conjure spells per notable creature? For [B]Plant Growth[/B], it ranks as Setup because wide open outdoors is a significant prerequisite/requirement. It is a Good choice if there. But it is hard for me to rank it better. I look at the [B]Rope Trick[/B] spell. If I had to choose between preparing Rope Trick and Plant Growth, I would rather pick Rope Trick. Heh, I feel bad, but I seem unable to get enthusiastic about Plant Growth. [/QUOTE]
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