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<blockquote data-quote="Shadowslayer" data-source="post: 3289391" data-attributes="member: 8400">Nope. Its the same. Personally, I think the only reason it was made was to sell established players a new set of minis and a couple new tiles. The Blue Dragon included is actually pretty nice.To be honest, I thought the superior incarnation of the 3e Basic Game was the first one, as far as the game itself goes. I think it was called the D&amp;D Adventure Game. It had blank character sheets, 8 playable PCs and enough playable teeny-tiny adventures to keep a kid occupied for a while. And it came with a Hero-Questy type of dungeon battlemap that you could use and reuse depending on where you put the walls and doors, and a flipside with a plain white grid. Only downsides were that it used punch out paper counters rather than minis, and it still was only playable up to 2nd level (maybe 3rd)...then you're supposed to go all the way and buy the D&amp;D books.Basically, they keep reheating the same hash. And I don't seem to notice a lot of people that have bought these things. If they could get them into Toys R Us and Walmart, they may make a go, but they seem to sit on the shelves collecting dust in hobby shops.A thought ocurred to me today, however. If you remember HeroQuest. It hit at roughly the same time that D&amp;D was really huge, and even it seemed to go out of production fairly quickly. (try finding a copy) Maybe thy don't figure a board-gamey D&amp;D would fly here based on that. Of course, the reason the current one may not be available in North America may have something to do with not getting an acceptable arrangement with the big box stores. I don't believe I've ever seen WOTC stuff, in any form, at the large chains. Not in Canada anyway.I don't know, but it may be food for thought.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Shadowslayer, post: 3289391, member: 8400"] Nope. Its the same. Personally, I think the only reason it was made was to sell established players a new set of minis and a couple new tiles. The Blue Dragon included is actually pretty nice. To be honest, I thought the superior incarnation of the 3e Basic Game was the first one, as far as the game itself goes. I think it was called the D&D Adventure Game. It had blank character sheets, 8 playable PCs and enough playable teeny-tiny adventures to keep a kid occupied for a while. And it came with a Hero-Questy type of dungeon battlemap that you could use and reuse depending on where you put the walls and doors, and a flipside with a plain white grid. Only downsides were that it used punch out paper counters rather than minis, and it still was only playable up to 2nd level (maybe 3rd)...then you're supposed to go all the way and buy the D&D books. Basically, they keep reheating the same hash. And I don't seem to notice a lot of people that have bought these things. If they could get them into Toys R Us and Walmart, they may make a go, but they seem to sit on the shelves collecting dust in hobby shops. A thought ocurred to me today, however. If you remember HeroQuest. It hit at roughly the same time that D&D was really huge, and even it seemed to go out of production fairly quickly. (try finding a copy) Maybe thy don't figure a board-gamey D&D would fly here based on that. Of course, the reason the current one may not be available in North America may have something to do with not getting an acceptable arrangement with the big box stores. I don't believe I've ever seen WOTC stuff, in any form, at the large chains. Not in Canada anyway. I don't know, but it may be food for thought. [/QUOTE]

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