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<blockquote data-quote="Upper_Krust" data-source="post: 3303955" data-attributes="member: 326"><p>Hi MerricB! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Clearly thats closer to the retail value rather than the cost to produce though.</p><p></p><p>To be honest I think $40 is the sweet spot for selling these sets. I definately wouldn't want to go above $50 ever, remember we want to enter the mass market with this thing. As far as I can tell £25 is about the maximum in the catalogues for board games. £25 = $49.25 by todays exchange rate.</p><p></p><p>So lets say an absolute ceiling height of $50. But no more than that.</p><p></p><p>I think $40 is a good price because it roughly parallels a big D&D/d20 hardback.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Which suggests $15 for the minis and $10 for the rest.</p><p></p><p>Therefore in a $40 boxed set we could easily get away with 2 large and 22 medium.</p><p></p><p>However, I am of the opinion for these sets to work they need a half decent range of scale and at least one 'showstopper' mini (the Huge).</p><p></p><p>For each set I was thinking:</p><p></p><p>1 Huge</p><p>2 Large Mooks</p><p>2 Large Unique Monsters</p><p>3 Medium Mooks</p><p>4 Medium Mooks</p><p>4 Medium Unique Monsters</p><p>4 Unique Medium NPCS</p><p>4 Unique Medium PCs</p><p>5 Small Mooks</p><p></p><p>Total: 28 minis = $57 dollars on Merric's scale (assuming Small mooks are only $1 each)</p><p></p><p>So <strong>Dungeons & Dinosaurs</strong> might have...</p><p></p><p>Fiendish T-Rex</p><p>2 x Blackscale Lizardmen</p><p>Girallon, Large Fire Elemental</p><p>3 x Salamanders</p><p>4 x Lizardmen</p><p>Basilisk, Spectre, Shocker Lizard, Digester</p><p>Evil Warlock, Master of Blades, Lizardman Cleric, Kobold Assassin</p><p>Wizard, Fighter, Cleric, Rogue</p><p>5 x Kobolds</p><p></p><p>Obviously thats just a quickly thrown together list, but you get the idea.</p><p></p><p>Which basically leads us to the question are Huge and Large minis that much more expensive to produce? I mean I know they sell for more, but I doubt the actual plastic costs far more. Probably the difference between 1 cent for medium, 4 cents for large and 10 cents for huge.</p><p></p><p>I mean the difference in production costs cannot be that great because in the Descent boxed set they give 6 Huges, 25 Large and 50 medium, which is $235 dollars on your scale (albeit those minis are unpainted).</p><p></p><p>Also this company is selling D&D minis at less than 2/3rds the standard retail price:</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.iconusa.com/online" target="_blank">http://www.iconusa.com/online</a></p><p></p><p>1 Huge + 8 medium = $13.99</p><p></p><p>So if they can do that and still turn a profit, clearly the standard pricing is a tad misleading.</p><p></p><p>A bit of snooping...</p><p></p><p>They are selling the Purple Worm for $5.99! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f631.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":eek:" title="Eek! :eek:" data-smilie="9"data-shortname=":eek:" /> </p><p>Bluespawn Godslayer for $3.99! </p><p>Fiendish T-Rex for $1.99...although they are sold out of those!</p><p></p><p>A lot of the prices seem self inflated. They are not based on the size of the mini, but instead based on the 'kewlness' and 'rarity'. I mean there are medium sized figures going for almost 6-7 times the price of some Huge minis.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Upper_Krust, post: 3303955, member: 326"] Hi MerricB! :) Clearly thats closer to the retail value rather than the cost to produce though. To be honest I think $40 is the sweet spot for selling these sets. I definately wouldn't want to go above $50 ever, remember we want to enter the mass market with this thing. As far as I can tell £25 is about the maximum in the catalogues for board games. £25 = $49.25 by todays exchange rate. So lets say an absolute ceiling height of $50. But no more than that. I think $40 is a good price because it roughly parallels a big D&D/d20 hardback. Which suggests $15 for the minis and $10 for the rest. Therefore in a $40 boxed set we could easily get away with 2 large and 22 medium. However, I am of the opinion for these sets to work they need a half decent range of scale and at least one 'showstopper' mini (the Huge). For each set I was thinking: 1 Huge 2 Large Mooks 2 Large Unique Monsters 3 Medium Mooks 4 Medium Mooks 4 Medium Unique Monsters 4 Unique Medium NPCS 4 Unique Medium PCs 5 Small Mooks Total: 28 minis = $57 dollars on Merric's scale (assuming Small mooks are only $1 each) So [B]Dungeons & Dinosaurs[/B] might have... Fiendish T-Rex 2 x Blackscale Lizardmen Girallon, Large Fire Elemental 3 x Salamanders 4 x Lizardmen Basilisk, Spectre, Shocker Lizard, Digester Evil Warlock, Master of Blades, Lizardman Cleric, Kobold Assassin Wizard, Fighter, Cleric, Rogue 5 x Kobolds Obviously thats just a quickly thrown together list, but you get the idea. Which basically leads us to the question are Huge and Large minis that much more expensive to produce? I mean I know they sell for more, but I doubt the actual plastic costs far more. Probably the difference between 1 cent for medium, 4 cents for large and 10 cents for huge. I mean the difference in production costs cannot be that great because in the Descent boxed set they give 6 Huges, 25 Large and 50 medium, which is $235 dollars on your scale (albeit those minis are unpainted). Also this company is selling D&D minis at less than 2/3rds the standard retail price: [url]http://www.iconusa.com/online[/url] 1 Huge + 8 medium = $13.99 So if they can do that and still turn a profit, clearly the standard pricing is a tad misleading. A bit of snooping... They are selling the Purple Worm for $5.99! :eek: Bluespawn Godslayer for $3.99! Fiendish T-Rex for $1.99...although they are sold out of those! A lot of the prices seem self inflated. They are not based on the size of the mini, but instead based on the 'kewlness' and 'rarity'. I mean there are medium sized figures going for almost 6-7 times the price of some Huge minis. [/QUOTE]
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