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<blockquote data-quote="Bedrockgames" data-source="post: 8232715" data-attributes="member: 85555"><p>I feel we covered this ground in other conversations. My point is I think your analysis and mine are biased here. When we frame this in terms of degenerate play (a term I really despise), railroading, as playing to find out what’s in the GMs notes, especially when we are trying to analyze playstyles we don’t like (I don’t care for adventure paths and metaplot) it is a belittling label that I suspect most adherents of said styles would reject (even those practicing ‘degenerate play’ within those styles: will not be using this term again in this thread but invoking it so you are clear on what I am saying). I just think it is a little convenient that these kinds of labels tend fall conveniently around the parameters of ones own playstyle. I think a better term for metaphor and adventure path is linear structure and event based. Railroad can happen in ANY structure if the GM blocks choices or forces players to go a given direction. Even in a metaphor (<strong>EDIT: metaplot</strong>) driven adventure, the sham (<strong>EDIT: GM</strong>) can respect player agency and shape metaphor (<strong>EDIT: metaplot</strong>) around their choices (to honestly reflect their choices). Then it wouldn’t be a railroad.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bedrockgames, post: 8232715, member: 85555"] I feel we covered this ground in other conversations. My point is I think your analysis and mine are biased here. When we frame this in terms of degenerate play (a term I really despise), railroading, as playing to find out what’s in the GMs notes, especially when we are trying to analyze playstyles we don’t like (I don’t care for adventure paths and metaplot) it is a belittling label that I suspect most adherents of said styles would reject (even those practicing ‘degenerate play’ within those styles: will not be using this term again in this thread but invoking it so you are clear on what I am saying). I just think it is a little convenient that these kinds of labels tend fall conveniently around the parameters of ones own playstyle. I think a better term for metaphor and adventure path is linear structure and event based. Railroad can happen in ANY structure if the GM blocks choices or forces players to go a given direction. Even in a metaphor ([B]EDIT: metaplot[/B]) driven adventure, the sham ([B]EDIT: GM[/B]) can respect player agency and shape metaphor ([B]EDIT: metaplot[/B]) around their choices (to honestly reflect their choices). Then it wouldn’t be a railroad. [/QUOTE]
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