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<blockquote data-quote="Manbearcat" data-source="post: 8235368" data-attributes="member: 6696971">[USER=85555]@Bedrockgames[/USER] I just listened to the video you linked from Justin Alexander.Upthread I wrote a list of 4 continuums to evaluate Protagonistic Play.I hope its clear that:* &quot;Festooned With Scenario Hooks&quot; with PCs on the uptake is not high on the Protagonistic Play continuum.* They can also &quot;choose to 'Explore Undermountain' which they can only do if they know Undermountain exists&quot; is not high on the Protagonistic Play continuum.Meanwhile:* Don't prep plot, prep situation is very high on the Protagonistic Play continuum.This is Vincent Baker Dogs in the Vineyard 101 circa 2004 (and he said it before then); How to GM 137-138 (abridged) - Don't play the story &gt; don't play &quot;what's going to happen&quot; &gt; play the town &gt; provoke &amp; react.What Justin Alexander is depicting above is Dogs in the Vineyard 101 except (I'm assuming given his system and &quot;setting before&quot; proclivities) without:* the initiating scenes for the PCs (which are seminal and provide anchoring for subsequent play).* the thematic PC build flags that constrain the GM toward what play should be about (therefore how to build setting/situation - frame 'the town' and how to play 'the town'...how to provoke the players).* the resolution mechanics that escalate conflict, impose difficult decisions, and forcefully evolve (and advance) PCs.* the focused premise of Dogs in the Vineyard.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Manbearcat, post: 8235368, member: 6696971"] [USER=85555]@Bedrockgames[/USER] I just listened to the video you linked from Justin Alexander. Upthread I wrote a list of 4 continuums to evaluate Protagonistic Play. I hope its clear that: * "Festooned With Scenario Hooks" with PCs on the uptake is not high on the Protagonistic Play continuum. * They can also "choose to 'Explore Undermountain' which they can only do if they know Undermountain exists" is not high on the Protagonistic Play continuum. Meanwhile: * Don't prep plot, prep situation is very high on the Protagonistic Play continuum. This is Vincent Baker Dogs in the Vineyard 101 circa 2004 (and he said it before then); How to GM 137-138 (abridged) - Don't play the story > don't play "what's going to happen" > play the town > provoke & react. What Justin Alexander is depicting above is Dogs in the Vineyard 101 except (I'm assuming given his system and "setting before" proclivities) without: * the initiating scenes for the PCs (which are seminal and provide anchoring for subsequent play). * the thematic PC build flags that constrain the GM toward what play should be about (therefore how to build setting/situation - frame 'the town' and how to play 'the town'...how to provoke the players). * the resolution mechanics that escalate conflict, impose difficult decisions, and forcefully evolve (and advance) PCs. * the focused premise of Dogs in the Vineyard. [/QUOTE]

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