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<blockquote data-quote="Emerikol" data-source="post: 8238728" data-attributes="member: 6698278">I'm not sure where I would fall on the movie scale as I do like westerns and they seem very trope-like in many cases.&nbsp; I know John Wayne is going to win in most cases.&nbsp; I think I am a combination of preferences and not a single preference.&nbsp; So in addition to sandbox play, I am also very much a skilled play person.&nbsp; You must prepare and buy the right resources and plan your journey and plot how to kill an especially tough monster.&nbsp; To me that is the bread and butter of gaming.&nbsp; The story that emerges is not the prime driver of play.&nbsp; So let's suppose I could make the story more interesting by changing something as DM.&nbsp; I probably don't do it.&nbsp;&nbsp; Now as a young man I might not have been as strict so I'm the amalgam of my experiences.&nbsp; I will admit that when not really well done and done in a heavy handed way I probably don't like those movies as much.&nbsp; I do though think there are times I like some of them.It really is like every other preference.&nbsp; Some people like a very broad variety of things and others like fewer varieties.&nbsp;&nbsp; I won't say I hate anything but with limited time I play what I like best.&nbsp;&nbsp; That is a better way to put it.&nbsp; I am sure with a really good GM of a particular style I could play a single Saturday and have fun.&nbsp; I just won't love it enough to devote two or three years to it.&nbsp;&nbsp; Well one example, might be self sacrifice.&nbsp; I would not say by any means that a PC in my campaign would not sacrifice himself for the group.&nbsp; I would say that that would never be his objective on day one.&nbsp; The players objectives always coincide with the characters objectives.&nbsp; It's part of being your character.&nbsp; So no one in my group would say &quot;Hey it would be cool if I went down fighting to help the party escape&quot;.&nbsp;&nbsp; That might be viewed as necessary but never a good thing.&nbsp; My players view character death the same way you or I might view it in the real world.&nbsp;&nbsp; They are less risk averse surely but I mean they avoid it always.I think in the narrative sense of player authoring the character is a piece that can be sacrificed if it makes for a great story.&nbsp;&nbsp; That doesn't mean you do it all the time.&nbsp; I'm just saying the coolness of the story overrides what the character would really want in the game.&nbsp;&nbsp; Character wants and player wants are identical in my games.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Emerikol, post: 8238728, member: 6698278"] I'm not sure where I would fall on the movie scale as I do like westerns and they seem very trope-like in many cases. I know John Wayne is going to win in most cases. I think I am a combination of preferences and not a single preference. So in addition to sandbox play, I am also very much a skilled play person. You must prepare and buy the right resources and plan your journey and plot how to kill an especially tough monster. To me that is the bread and butter of gaming. The story that emerges is not the prime driver of play. So let's suppose I could make the story more interesting by changing something as DM. I probably don't do it. Now as a young man I might not have been as strict so I'm the amalgam of my experiences. I will admit that when not really well done and done in a heavy handed way I probably don't like those movies as much. I do though think there are times I like some of them. It really is like every other preference. Some people like a very broad variety of things and others like fewer varieties. I won't say I hate anything but with limited time I play what I like best. That is a better way to put it. I am sure with a really good GM of a particular style I could play a single Saturday and have fun. I just won't love it enough to devote two or three years to it. Well one example, might be self sacrifice. I would not say by any means that a PC in my campaign would not sacrifice himself for the group. I would say that that would never be his objective on day one. The players objectives always coincide with the characters objectives. It's part of being your character. So no one in my group would say "Hey it would be cool if I went down fighting to help the party escape". That might be viewed as necessary but never a good thing. My players view character death the same way you or I might view it in the real world. They are less risk averse surely but I mean they avoid it always. I think in the narrative sense of player authoring the character is a piece that can be sacrificed if it makes for a great story. That doesn't mean you do it all the time. I'm just saying the coolness of the story overrides what the character would really want in the game. Character wants and player wants are identical in my games. [/QUOTE]

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