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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Manbearcat" data-source="post: 8244512" data-attributes="member: 6696971">One final bit.I think the sell is particularly impossible to me because I've interacted with so many tenured GMs on here who (with all the respect in the world I can muster) aren't remotely sufficiently informed about the prospects of dozens and dozens of physical tasks in our own world, let alone a fantasy world where a Fighter is routinely somehow dealing with otherworldly kinetic energy deficits (some just beyond comprehension like wading into melee with an Ancient Red Wyrm) that our real life athletes couldn't even dream of dealing with.I'm a totally average Lead Climber and Boulderer.  Average as hell.But I would guarantee that a large cross-section of competent 5e GMs would look at a boulder problem and give me a DC that in no way reflects what it should be (either subjectively for me * or objectively against all of the world).  I'd look at a Tier 3 problem and, depending deeply on the dynamics of the climb, I could be anywhere from "no...I cannot climb this obstacle" to "this is a joke."  And they wouldn't know how to adjudicate that.And again, I'm a nothingburger, 43 year old, extremely amateur climber with a legion of injuries from 30+ years in hard athletics.  Compared to some of the freakishly power: weight ratio, +8 Ape-Index, 20 year old climbers (and these are WELL within the normal distribution of just competent climbers), I may as well be strapped to a gurney and catatonic.  Most GMs would look at some of these climbs and they would just flat say "no...no chance" to the Fighter who wanted to climb it (with full marks for irony, the same badass Fighter that just whooped an Ancient Red Wyrm in melee!).  A few may say "DC 30."  Yet, I see a huge regime of kids routinely pull off these climbs!I'm just enormously skeptical (and rightly so) of damn near every GM I've encountered on ENWorld being able to consistently synchronize with me on a DC in my head when I conceive of a physical obstacle/feat of athleticism.Oh and that * is a HUGE (e) which I forgot in my matrix above.  Is a GM setting their DC based on the target attempting it (subjective DC) or is it an objective DC based on the obstacle itself?  In that thread in 2016, it was not only all over the map on a per person basis...each individual GM would toggle subjective/objective depending on what the action declaration was?The built-in volatility in action resolution is crazy.</blockquote>

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