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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ovinomancer" data-source="post: 8253838" data-attributes="member: 16814">YES!  I 100% agree that the crux of the pushback has been a misinterpretation of the point -- that no one is saying that the only, sole, or even primary purpose of playing is to learn what is the GM's notes, but rather that quite a lot of play revolves around this.  And that's fine -- I listed a number of things my players play for in my current game, and quite a lot of them feature finding out what I think the fiction is -- skill play relies on this being done fairly and clearly, the railroad plot absolutely relies on it, a good bit of the fun comes from how I describe my conceptions.  This isn't a problem -- it's a vector to enable the other things we play for.  Yet, you, and others, seem to lock down and misattribute this to somehow claiming that all play is just sitting around listening to the GM tell you things.  This hasn't been anyone's point in this thread, except may you when you argue against this phantom.S'Ok, feel free to disengage.</blockquote>