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<blockquote data-quote="Emerikol" data-source="post: 8259102" data-attributes="member: 6698278">I agree with this practically.&nbsp; I would nuance it a little bit.&nbsp; A sandbox is a contrivance to make the task of running a living world easier (possible?).&nbsp;&nbsp; Like I said, if you were a billionaire and hired a hundred people to keep the entire world detailed out to sandbox level, you would still have a living world.&nbsp;&nbsp; So a sandbox is not an absolute necessity though it may be a practical requirement due to the limitations of human DMs.&nbsp;&nbsp; This nuance though is probably sandblasting a soda cracker.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":-)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :-)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":-)" />I think there is a third definition.&nbsp;&nbsp; When a regular word becomes a game term.&nbsp;&nbsp; For example, in D&amp;D there is the concept of advantage.&nbsp; That means a specific thing in game and it is based upon the idea of the english word but it is far more limited and focused.&nbsp; I can have many advantages in D&amp;D and not have &quot;advantage&quot; and thus advantage has become a gamist term.&nbsp; I think in our discussions we have gotten into a lot of conflict when some people only know the English word and not the gamist term.&nbsp; Things like Living World, Protagonism, Fiction, and a host of other things have been gamified at times.&nbsp;&nbsp; And [USER=6785785]@hawkeyefan[/USER], I believe others have used a more limited usage of Fiction than you proposed earlier.&nbsp;&nbsp; So perhaps you have a broader view but not everyone on that side does.&nbsp; I think as long as we can clarify things it's kind of pointless to keep belaboring these terms.&nbsp; If they are truly offensive I guess we could not use them but as long as we know &quot;what is meant&quot; then I think we are fine.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Emerikol, post: 8259102, member: 6698278"] I agree with this practically. I would nuance it a little bit. A sandbox is a contrivance to make the task of running a living world easier (possible?). Like I said, if you were a billionaire and hired a hundred people to keep the entire world detailed out to sandbox level, you would still have a living world. So a sandbox is not an absolute necessity though it may be a practical requirement due to the limitations of human DMs. This nuance though is probably sandblasting a soda cracker. :-) I think there is a third definition. When a regular word becomes a game term. For example, in D&D there is the concept of advantage. That means a specific thing in game and it is based upon the idea of the english word but it is far more limited and focused. I can have many advantages in D&D and not have "advantage" and thus advantage has become a gamist term. I think in our discussions we have gotten into a lot of conflict when some people only know the English word and not the gamist term. Things like Living World, Protagonism, Fiction, and a host of other things have been gamified at times. And [USER=6785785]@hawkeyefan[/USER], I believe others have used a more limited usage of Fiction than you proposed earlier. So perhaps you have a broader view but not everyone on that side does. I think as long as we can clarify things it's kind of pointless to keep belaboring these terms. If they are truly offensive I guess we could not use them but as long as we know "what is meant" then I think we are fine. [/QUOTE]

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