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<blockquote data-quote="Shemeska" data-source="post: 2856985" data-attributes="member: 11697"><p>Union has some major faults. It's just a normal city with EPIC people around, apparently with an EPIC plastic clown at the turnstile holding up his EPIC hand declaring that you must be at least X level to enter Union. It's silly and not written with much logic as to how things work in other major planar cities such as Sigil, Grenpoli, Dis, the City of Brass, etc. It's just a normal city with the people there given a 20 level boost.</p><p></p><p>Union also suffers considerably for appearing to be a cheap, flavorless knockoff of Sigil. If it had a flavor all its own and didn't draw parallels to the City of Doors, it would be seen as poorly conceived, but not as an abomination unto God that should be nuked from orbit just to be sure.</p><p></p><p>I think it's a hackjob, but I think it can be salvaged by a good DM who gives the city a few hours of abuse at the hands of the big beating stick of logic and sense. Give the city some valid reasons why it hasn't been a target for various planar groups (Planar Trade Consortium, various deities, various fiend races, various celestial races, etc), and give the city some elaboration and integration within the context of the planes at large.</p><p></p><p>I won't rule out ever using the city, but I'll give it a comprehensive rewrite if I ever do, something along the lines of the hundred or so pages I wrote up on Sigil for Planewalker's Sigil guide. But till then, it'll be an object of abuse and the butt of jokes, <a href="http://www.planewalker.com/sharper/files/LSEv2i1.pdf" target="_blank">like my in character article 'Union in Review' starting on page 5 in the latest issue of the in-game newsrag the Lady's Sharper Eye over on Planewalker.</a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Shemeska, post: 2856985, member: 11697"] Union has some major faults. It's just a normal city with EPIC people around, apparently with an EPIC plastic clown at the turnstile holding up his EPIC hand declaring that you must be at least X level to enter Union. It's silly and not written with much logic as to how things work in other major planar cities such as Sigil, Grenpoli, Dis, the City of Brass, etc. It's just a normal city with the people there given a 20 level boost. Union also suffers considerably for appearing to be a cheap, flavorless knockoff of Sigil. If it had a flavor all its own and didn't draw parallels to the City of Doors, it would be seen as poorly conceived, but not as an abomination unto God that should be nuked from orbit just to be sure. I think it's a hackjob, but I think it can be salvaged by a good DM who gives the city a few hours of abuse at the hands of the big beating stick of logic and sense. Give the city some valid reasons why it hasn't been a target for various planar groups (Planar Trade Consortium, various deities, various fiend races, various celestial races, etc), and give the city some elaboration and integration within the context of the planes at large. I won't rule out ever using the city, but I'll give it a comprehensive rewrite if I ever do, something along the lines of the hundred or so pages I wrote up on Sigil for Planewalker's Sigil guide. But till then, it'll be an object of abuse and the butt of jokes, [URL=http://www.planewalker.com/sharper/files/LSEv2i1.pdf]like my in character article 'Union in Review' starting on page 5 in the latest issue of the in-game newsrag the Lady's Sharper Eye over on Planewalker.[/URL] [/QUOTE]
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