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<blockquote data-quote="Gadget" data-source="post: 7626249" data-attributes="member: 23716"><p>Rangers have always been an elite, special forces type of vibe to me. Combined with the ability to function independently for long periods of time and survival away form the the group/civilization. While the isolated woodsman/tracker type can certainly meet the requirements, to me the concept has always represented being part of an elite group, perhaps with a similar purpose. It could just be elites who follow some obscure wilderness code of honor, or a more focused group ala Aragorn and his people in tLotR. Even being part of a 'good' organization like the 1e requirements isn't too objectionable. One thing I do not care for is having them be some sort of Greenpeace-like "defender of nature" type. Or Druid-lite. Sure there is some overlap there, and individual Rangers could share that sentiment and outlook, but I don't like it as a whole. </p><p></p><p>Mechanically, I can take the spellcasting, especially since this helps distinguish them from Fighter/Rogues with a similar skill set, but I like that 5e has given them their own spell list that is not a complete overlap with the Druid or other spellcasters. This gives them their own unique flavor. I have always felt that things like favored enemy/favored terrain were misguided and troublesome features, as they tend to be too limiting and finicky, requiring a DM-mother-may-I type of play. I think a more general Hunter's Mark/Quarry like feature would be a better direction overall. Similarly, I find the attempt to shove an animal companion on them irritating, cumbersome, and unnecessary with a class that has spells like Animal Friendship and Speak with Animals on their spell list, though I can understand the desire for others to have some sort of a "pet" affectation. I just find that a little burdensome in practical play. I would like it if any class could use the new Sidekick rules to have something similar, be it a henchman, loyal follower, or animal companion and let groups opt in if they so desire.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Gadget, post: 7626249, member: 23716"] Rangers have always been an elite, special forces type of vibe to me. Combined with the ability to function independently for long periods of time and survival away form the the group/civilization. While the isolated woodsman/tracker type can certainly meet the requirements, to me the concept has always represented being part of an elite group, perhaps with a similar purpose. It could just be elites who follow some obscure wilderness code of honor, or a more focused group ala Aragorn and his people in tLotR. Even being part of a 'good' organization like the 1e requirements isn't too objectionable. One thing I do not care for is having them be some sort of Greenpeace-like "defender of nature" type. Or Druid-lite. Sure there is some overlap there, and individual Rangers could share that sentiment and outlook, but I don't like it as a whole. Mechanically, I can take the spellcasting, especially since this helps distinguish them from Fighter/Rogues with a similar skill set, but I like that 5e has given them their own spell list that is not a complete overlap with the Druid or other spellcasters. This gives them their own unique flavor. I have always felt that things like favored enemy/favored terrain were misguided and troublesome features, as they tend to be too limiting and finicky, requiring a DM-mother-may-I type of play. I think a more general Hunter's Mark/Quarry like feature would be a better direction overall. Similarly, I find the attempt to shove an animal companion on them irritating, cumbersome, and unnecessary with a class that has spells like Animal Friendship and Speak with Animals on their spell list, though I can understand the desire for others to have some sort of a "pet" affectation. I just find that a little burdensome in practical play. I would like it if any class could use the new Sidekick rules to have something similar, be it a henchman, loyal follower, or animal companion and let groups opt in if they so desire. [/QUOTE]
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