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<blockquote data-quote="Garthanos" data-source="post: 7628125" data-attributes="member: 82504"><p>The design impact relates... very closely ... my rendering of an AD&D ranger early in this thread means an entirely different thing than a direct translation even if we came up with a what looks like a perfect one.</p><p> </p><p>The ranger made out of a 4e fighter I posted earlier will be able to do many many nature and athletics based things that the 5e ranger will never get to do ... starting with improvised application of skill to things which would be impossible. Because the games paradigm doesn't need him doing spells do to awesome schtuff</p><p></p><p>explicit spells instead of subtle magic is almost limiting (though the explicit ones like practices and rituals are more efficient)</p><p></p><p>Its trivial to let someone improvise a ritual in 4e too</p><p></p><p></p><p>I agree more ranger styled rituals wouldn't be bad but I ended up making quite a number of martial practices styled in a way that definitely works for rangers ... Double back, Animal Tongues, and others</p><p></p><p>5e is supposed to be the game of house rules.. making avian, canine and a bunch of other simple languages available should be an easy sell but I hear from you THAT AINT no D&D in fact that is what I heard a lot from you are you regressing?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Garthanos, post: 7628125, member: 82504"] The design impact relates... very closely ... my rendering of an AD&D ranger early in this thread means an entirely different thing than a direct translation even if we came up with a what looks like a perfect one. The ranger made out of a 4e fighter I posted earlier will be able to do many many nature and athletics based things that the 5e ranger will never get to do ... starting with improvised application of skill to things which would be impossible. Because the games paradigm doesn't need him doing spells do to awesome schtuff explicit spells instead of subtle magic is almost limiting (though the explicit ones like practices and rituals are more efficient) Its trivial to let someone improvise a ritual in 4e too I agree more ranger styled rituals wouldn't be bad but I ended up making quite a number of martial practices styled in a way that definitely works for rangers ... Double back, Animal Tongues, and others 5e is supposed to be the game of house rules.. making avian, canine and a bunch of other simple languages available should be an easy sell but I hear from you THAT AINT no D&D in fact that is what I heard a lot from you are you regressing? [/QUOTE]
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