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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Remathilis" data-source="post: 9358907" data-attributes="member: 7635"><p>Paizo had WotC's Dragon distribution lists, WotC fumbled the roll out of 4e, and Paizo seized on the idea of keeping the prior edition alive rather than the radical overhaul WotC wanted. None of those are true this time around. KP and EP don't have any special access to WotC's former players, 5.2 is nowhere the level of changes 3.5 to 4e was, and the best the others are offering are slightly different variants of the same thing WotC is already offering. I won't leave open the option for WotC to shoot themselves in the foot, but I don't see any way TotV or LUp gets the traction that Pathfinder 1e got, and that was a best-case scenario for Paizo.</p></blockquote><p></p>