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<blockquote data-quote="Quickleaf" data-source="post: 9359869" data-attributes="member: 20323">I love your thought process here so much. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f60d.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":love:" title="Love&nbsp; &nbsp; :love:"&nbsp; data-smilie="16"data-shortname=":love:" />To the original question... for my non-OSR modern D&amp;D, I think the number is close to 18 classes, partly due to niche and partly due to legacy.Taking the existing 13 from WotC/Hasbro, with caveats, I am adding 5 classes...For spellcasters, I am working on/adapting a Witch. There's always been some version of a witch floating around since 1e articles in Dragon magazine, 2e's witch kit, 3e's prestige classes / variant spell lists / third party classes, all the way through 4e's &quot;witch&quot; wizard subclass.For half-casters, I have an Archivist &amp; working/adapting a Swordmage. The Archivist is the closest to the &quot;noncombatant PC who knows things&quot; fantasy that I could find. The Swordmage (known as Duskblade or Spellblade in 3e) is distinct enough to warrant existence alongside rangers and paladins.For martial PCs, I have a Duelist &amp; Warden., both which trace back to the 1e DMG's alternate classes. The Duelist is a cosmopolitan warrior who relies on charm, quick-wit, and scathing retort; they build upon opportunity attacks &amp; stances, and gets urban-based features echoing ones the ranger has. The Warden is a no-spells ranger, which I've hacked it to focus on ranged opportunity attacks, tracking &amp; recon, invocation-style wildcrafts, with one subclass emulating the 4e warden.For OSR D&amp;D I think as few as 3 classes or even no classes is perfectly fine.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Quickleaf, post: 9359869, member: 20323"] I love your thought process here so much. :love: To the original question... for my non-OSR modern D&D, I think the number is close to 18 classes, partly due to niche and partly due to legacy. Taking the existing 13 from WotC/Hasbro, with caveats, I am adding 5 classes... For spellcasters, I am working on/adapting a [B][I]Witch[/I][/B]. There's always been some version of a witch floating around since 1e articles in Dragon magazine, 2e's witch kit, 3e's prestige classes / variant spell lists / third party classes, all the way through 4e's "witch" wizard subclass. For half-casters, I have an [B]Archivist[/B] & working/adapting a [B][I]Swordmage[/I][/B]. The Archivist is the closest to the "noncombatant PC who knows things" fantasy that I could find. The Swordmage (known as Duskblade or Spellblade in 3e) is distinct enough to warrant existence alongside rangers and paladins. For martial PCs, I have a [B]Duelist[/B] & [B]Warden[/B]., both which trace back to the 1e DMG's alternate classes. The Duelist is a cosmopolitan warrior who relies on charm, quick-wit, and scathing retort; they build upon opportunity attacks & stances, and gets urban-based features echoing ones the ranger has. The Warden is a no-spells ranger, which I've hacked it to focus on ranged opportunity attacks, tracking & recon, invocation-style wildcrafts, with one subclass emulating the 4e warden. For OSR D&D I think as few as 3 classes or even no classes is perfectly fine. [/QUOTE]

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