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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mecheon" data-source="post: 9360551" data-attributes="member: 6801776">Everything in 3E is spells. It ain't a Wizard spell, that's the point.When we break this game down to hard tack everything is a "spell", because all a "spell" is "Roll a dice and a thing happens". The game not having proper ways to mechanically represent something doesn't mean we squish everything together. That could just as easily read "Stick of Dynamite. You throw a stick of Dynamite, do 3d6 damage to all targets in range" and its still going to look the exact same, despite that being something you can do IRL (please do not actually throw sticks of dynamite, i've been watching theme park videos lately and you'd be surprised how many have "The old mine is rigged to blow!" as a plot point)I'm a flavour man well above a mechanics man. The flavor needs to be "You are not casting spells in the way a wizard is". I'm simple to satisfyReading thoughts a passive thing from concentration and nothing like Detect Magic. Its, y'know, the whole Professor X thing. From X Men. Or Satori from Touhou.Suer it is! Its called: You say they're not spells on them. Just like how it says on the wizard they are spells. Maybe it costs something different. But, if we're equating to "The way D&D mechanically represents things can only represent spells" then we're doomed because that aformentioned system is how any sort of damage-rider would be represented. Heck, that's how monster abilities are represented, and they sure aren't spells.Meanwhile in other threads the sorcerer is being torn to shreds for not doing enough to define its concept, so we can see how well that's working for most people. Plus we're in a thread were people have speficially acted as if you can shove everything into Magic User if it vague looks like it casts magicPsion is just a shortened version of psionic, let's be honest. He's a High Templar regardless. The Dark Templar is ZeratulThe psion pre-dates the sorcerer. It casts psionic spells, which aren't arcane spells. Therein is the problem. The cleric's a spellcaster who casts divine spells, after allThey don't cast the things wizards cast because those are wizard spells. Sure, mechanically might get the same result, but fictionally they're not. They're not going through a book and dredging knowledge that way, they're using the power of their mind. So long as that's the thing, there will be an expectation they're treated differently because that's how they're presented. Mechanically the only difference between weapons is what type of dice you roll, but fictionally you'd treat a sledgehammer and a rapier as two very different things with very different uses5E is the biggest edition of the game so far. By definition, any class that's in this version of the game has the most players they've ever had. Regardless though, if psionics weren't popular to have their 70 pages of psionic spells, then stuff like Kibble's psion wouldn't exist</blockquote>

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