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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 9362403" data-attributes="member: 4937"><p>Is there even an argument being offered in that? Are you offering up anything in the way of evidence?</p><p></p><p>And to the extent that you are offering up an argument, it's a semantic argument and therefore it supports my position. I've already anticipated and disarmed it by pointing out that the words are synonyms. But let's just take it one step further.</p><p></p><p>One of the most common reputed psychic powers is the ability to communicate with the dead - as in movies like 'Ghost' and 'The Sixth Sense'. But if this power exists then it implies that the world we live in is one where people not only have souls, but that these souls are disembodied - dare I say ethereal - and hanging around on earth wanting to communicate. And thus we are already describing the world of the medium and the mystic and the sorcerer. And indeed, we're already describing the world described by practitioners of magic and already describing basically the same process for "gifted" individuals to contact the dead. This is the world of magical gifts and talents, of seventh sons of seventh sons and wise women and all of that. And this should not be surprising, because the word 'psychic' itself comes out of the 19th century Spiritualism movement which was just the old magic of the world dressed up in a waistcoat and made presentable in the parlor. </p><p></p><p>Psychic is just magic, and psionic - since it isn't about putting a machine in your brain that extends your senses like the "telepath corp" in War Against the Chtorr (actual psionics) - is just an inadvertent misnaming by the authors in 1e AD&D of psychic based on (I'd have to look up my Jon Peterson) last reading some science fiction book where psionic was used in place of psychic to dress up magic as presentable in the spaceship (assuming that book lacked actual psionics machines). So psionic is just magic. It's all the same stuff doing the same things using the same assumptions about how the world works practiced through the same focusing of the mind and willpower to force things to obey your thoughts.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 9362403, member: 4937"] Is there even an argument being offered in that? Are you offering up anything in the way of evidence? And to the extent that you are offering up an argument, it's a semantic argument and therefore it supports my position. I've already anticipated and disarmed it by pointing out that the words are synonyms. But let's just take it one step further. One of the most common reputed psychic powers is the ability to communicate with the dead - as in movies like 'Ghost' and 'The Sixth Sense'. But if this power exists then it implies that the world we live in is one where people not only have souls, but that these souls are disembodied - dare I say ethereal - and hanging around on earth wanting to communicate. And thus we are already describing the world of the medium and the mystic and the sorcerer. And indeed, we're already describing the world described by practitioners of magic and already describing basically the same process for "gifted" individuals to contact the dead. This is the world of magical gifts and talents, of seventh sons of seventh sons and wise women and all of that. And this should not be surprising, because the word 'psychic' itself comes out of the 19th century Spiritualism movement which was just the old magic of the world dressed up in a waistcoat and made presentable in the parlor. Psychic is just magic, and psionic - since it isn't about putting a machine in your brain that extends your senses like the "telepath corp" in War Against the Chtorr (actual psionics) - is just an inadvertent misnaming by the authors in 1e AD&D of psychic based on (I'd have to look up my Jon Peterson) last reading some science fiction book where psionic was used in place of psychic to dress up magic as presentable in the spaceship (assuming that book lacked actual psionics machines). So psionic is just magic. It's all the same stuff doing the same things using the same assumptions about how the world works practiced through the same focusing of the mind and willpower to force things to obey your thoughts. [/QUOTE]
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