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<blockquote data-quote="Aldarc" data-source="post: 9370170" data-attributes="member: 5142">All of the below seems to presume the Wizard and its chassis. I do not. This would be my mind mage, though teleportion would not necessarily be a part of it. I don't really see the need for this as its own class. You can put demonic summoning, for example, in the dark arts caster below. You could even put the far realm spells onto a mind mage subclass. And the illusions would be part of the mind mage. <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" alt="🤷‍♂️" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f937-2642.png" title="Man shrugging&nbsp; &nbsp; :man_shrugging:" data-shortname=":man_shrugging:" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" />This would be my Warlock, which has little to relation to the class of the same name in D&amp;D, but just a placeholder name for the dark arts caster. I would just put the first bit into the mind magic bit since that's pretty psionic anyway, and the cosmic spells in the class mentioned below. Yeah, this would mostly be my Arcanist (placeholder name), though with a greater focus on magical essence, space and time, gravity, magnetism, etc. The Arcanist would be the magical physicist. With Neo-Vancian, everyone is basically spontaneous and I don't see the need to have a class just for the sake of metamagic.&nbsp; <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" alt="🤷‍♂️" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f937-2642.png" title="Man shrugging&nbsp; &nbsp; :man_shrugging:" data-shortname=":man_shrugging:" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Aldarc, post: 9370170, member: 5142"] All of the below seems to presume the Wizard and its chassis. I do not. This would be my mind mage, though teleportion would not necessarily be a part of it. I don't really see the need for this as its own class. You can put demonic summoning, for example, in the dark arts caster below. You could even put the far realm spells onto a mind mage subclass. And the illusions would be part of the mind mage. 🤷‍♂️ This would be my Warlock, which has little to relation to the class of the same name in D&D, but just a placeholder name for the dark arts caster. I would just put the first bit into the mind magic bit since that's pretty psionic anyway, and the cosmic spells in the class mentioned below. Yeah, this would mostly be my Arcanist (placeholder name), though with a greater focus on magical essence, space and time, gravity, magnetism, etc. The Arcanist would be the magical physicist. With Neo-Vancian, everyone is basically spontaneous and I don't see the need to have a class just for the sake of metamagic. 🤷‍♂️ [/QUOTE]

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