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<blockquote data-quote="Aldarc" data-source="post: 9370704" data-attributes="member: 5142">Do you mean &quot;tripe&quot; here in the sense of food (i.e., edible stomach lining) or nonsense/rubbish?&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> Sure, the Summoner is common, but I don't really see why that needs to be one class when that is something that all flavors of mage would be interested in to some degree or another. My issue here is that &quot;spirits&quot; are again sort of a category that multiple mage types likely have interest in. Are necromancers uninterested in spirits? What about holy mages? Or nature mages? Or elemental mages? That's sort of the reason why I didn't propose the Shaman. Again, I think that the risk is that you create too many mages, keeping in mind that our discussion has not even touched (if only ever so slightly) on things like partial casters and non-casters. So IMHO you don't want to juggle too many mages when you know that you will also have to juggle other class options.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Aldarc, post: 9370704, member: 5142"] Do you mean "tripe" here in the sense of food (i.e., edible stomach lining) or nonsense/rubbish? ;) Sure, the Summoner is common, but I don't really see why that needs to be one class when that is something that all flavors of mage would be interested in to some degree or another. My issue here is that "spirits" are again sort of a category that multiple mage types likely have interest in. Are necromancers uninterested in spirits? What about holy mages? Or nature mages? Or elemental mages? That's sort of the reason why I didn't propose the Shaman. Again, I think that the risk is that you create too many mages, keeping in mind that our discussion has not even touched (if only ever so slightly) on things like partial casters and non-casters. So IMHO you don't want to juggle too many mages when you know that you will also have to juggle other class options. [/QUOTE]

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