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<blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 6936919" data-attributes="member: 42582">But the poll doesn't ask about the definition of the word roleplaying. It asks how you think of roleplaying, with reference to do different ways of thinking about the &quot;role&quot; in roleplaying - function vs personality.If there was a poll asking &quot;What do you think of as the paradigm of D&amp;D fanatsy - REH or Tolkien?&quot; it wouldnt be asking you to define fantasy. Just like my poll, it would be asking how you orient your thinking about fantasy - what you treat as your lodestone, or anchor (or other metaphor of choice).That is not the only fiction part of the game, though - so saying that roleplaying is the fiction, and saying that roleplaying is the persona, are not equivalent.For instance, the ability of a MU to cast spells is also the fiction part of the game. The existence of a cavern roof, which can be turned into mud with a Transmute Rock to Mud spell, is an element of the fiction part of the game. Poking a skeleton with a 10' pole is making a &quot;move&quot; in the shared fiction of the game. But none of these relate to playing a persona, in anything but the most obvious sense that each player in a RPG has one character (&quot;figure&quot;, in the old language) that s/he controls.No it doesn't, anymore than &quot;How do you think of fantasy?&quot;, or &quot;How do you think of music - Beethoven, or Beatles?&quot;, does.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="pemerton, post: 6936919, member: 42582"] But the poll [I]doesn't[/I] ask about the definition of the word roleplaying. It asks how you think of roleplaying, with reference to do different ways of thinking about the "role" in roleplaying - function vs personality. If there was a poll asking "What do you think of as the paradigm of D&D fanatsy - REH or Tolkien?" it wouldnt be asking you to [I]define[/I] fantasy. Just like my poll, it would be asking how you orient your thinking about fantasy - what you treat as your lodestone, or anchor (or other metaphor of choice). That is not the only fiction part of the game, though - so saying that roleplaying is the fiction, and saying that roleplaying is the persona, are not equivalent. For instance, the ability of a MU to cast spells is also the fiction part of the game. The existence of a cavern roof, which can be turned into mud with a Transmute Rock to Mud spell, is an element of the fiction part of the game. Poking a skeleton with a 10' pole is making a "move" in the shared fiction of the game. But none of these relate to playing a persona, in anything but the most obvious sense that each player in a RPG has one character ("figure", in the old language) that s/he controls. No it doesn't, anymore than "How do you think of fantasy?", or "How do you think of music - Beethoven, or Beatles?", does. [/QUOTE]

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