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<blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 9484301" data-attributes="member: 6790260">I don't personally think even the 3.5e Warlock was actually simple.As noted, the 4e Elementalist was simple. You make all of one choice for the first like...8 levels? What element you are a <s>bender</s> master of. Not counting feats, of course, but even those wouldn't be THAT important.The Elementalist was doubly simple because guess what its secondary stat was, the one that gave it better defenses and side-effects from its magic? Constitution. So it's a Cha/Con subclass with very straightforward abilities that are still magical in nature and that can (explicitly!) be used in creative off-label ways. It got good social skills and decent exploration skills (especially since Endurance was a skill in 4e, and based on Con, so the Elementalist actually could fill a pretty solid, if straightforward, niche in the skills department, alongside other exploration-y skills like Dungeoneering, Nature, and Athletics.)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="EzekielRaiden, post: 9484301, member: 6790260"] I don't personally think even the 3.5e Warlock was actually simple. As noted, the 4e Elementalist was simple. You make all of [I]one[/I] choice for the first like...8 levels? What element you are a [S]bender[/S] [I]master[/I] of. Not counting feats, of course, but even those wouldn't be THAT important. The Elementalist was doubly simple because guess what its secondary stat was, the one that gave it better defenses and side-effects from its magic? [I]Constitution[/I]. So it's a Cha/Con subclass with very straightforward abilities that are still magical in nature and that can (explicitly!) be used in creative off-label ways. It got good social skills and decent exploration skills (especially since Endurance was a skill in 4e, and based on Con, so the Elementalist actually could fill a pretty solid, if straightforward, niche in the skills department, alongside other exploration-y skills like Dungeoneering, Nature, and Athletics.) [/QUOTE]

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