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<blockquote data-quote="MuhVerisimilitude" data-source="post: 9486284" data-attributes="member: 7042567">I disagree and agree. I believe that mechanically, the battle master is rather trivial. Not as trivial as the champion, but it is still a trivial class. I also believe it is rather straight forward to build since anyone who is completely new to D&amp;D will still understand that the point of the class is ultimately to smash face.Someone else (Clint_L?) mentioned that he believes the sorcerer is more complex than the wizard (something I disagree with), and I believe his point is related to what I am trying to say here. The wizard is a more &quot;obvious&quot; class because everyone knows why you would play a wizard: to cast spells. But D&amp;D complicates this by then adding a sorcerer and forcing new players to question what the point is of having another caster class? Why pick sorcerer when the wizard exists?I agree that att lower levels the battle master might be equal to a caster in complexity, but the I think the caster overtakes that lead in just a few levels.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="MuhVerisimilitude, post: 9486284, member: 7042567"] I disagree and agree. I believe that mechanically, the battle master is rather trivial. Not as trivial as the champion, but it is still a trivial class. I also believe it is rather straight forward to build since anyone who is completely new to D&D will still understand that the point of the class is ultimately to smash face. Someone else (Clint_L?) mentioned that he believes the sorcerer is more complex than the wizard (something I disagree with), and I believe his point is related to what I am trying to say here. The wizard is a more "obvious" class because everyone knows why you would play a wizard: to cast spells. But D&D complicates this by then adding a sorcerer and forcing new players to question what the point is of having another caster class? Why pick sorcerer when the wizard exists? I agree that att lower levels the battle master might be equal to a caster in complexity, but the I think the caster overtakes that lead in just a few levels. [/QUOTE]

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