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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 3447323" data-attributes="member: 22779">The original question is whether or not point buy matters.  I simply disagree with Croth's assessment.  If it works for him, fine, but, I find that it does not work so well for me.  One of the gripes that commonly come across is that PC's are creaming encounters that are EL+3 or +4 regularly.  If that's true, then I wonder what the cause is.IMHO, one of the causes is a very high point buy character.  Point buy at 35+ equates out with about a +1 LA race.  Straight 16's, for example, means that the character has saving throws several levels higher than his level would indicate, probably around 50% more hit points and several more skill ranks than normal.  Again, if I introduced a dwarf variant that had all the abilities of a dwarf, plus an additional +4 strength, Dex, Con, Charisma and Intelligence, would that be a +1LA?  That's what straight 16's means, effectively.  While I do agree with Crothian that lower point characters can be every bit as effective, if played very well, that is besides the point.  It's dodging the issue.  If I play a high point buy character very well, then your low point buy character will never be as effective as mine.  Relying on the high point buy player to be stupid is not a good source of game design.</blockquote>