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Message: <blockquote data-quote="machineelf" data-source="post: 7052470" data-attributes="member: 6774924">Opinions vary. But even if you do love the 4e Realms, there just isn't a lot of detailed info about the various regions of the world like there was with the older Realms modules and material.I'm an older guy, but I'm not really a grognard because even though I played around with D&D a little bit as a kid, I didn't really get into it until about 5 years ago. I eventually wanted to get some more information about Waterdeep, because my players were going there to spend some time. So I got the old Waterdeep and the North module, as well as Volo's Guide to Waterdeep. That led me to get the gorgeous old map of Waterdeep and get it laminated. And I started to learn about these classic, interesting characters in the city. From there, I began to collect older modules of the Realms. I learned that it's so big, but so diverse and interesting. So I've begun to collect all the information, and all the maps, I can of the entire continent. I'm getting pretty close to my goal. Maybe this does actually make me a grognard. I'll wear it proudly.The beauty of it is the massive amount of information that's out there. So even though I wasn't really into D&D at the beginning of 4th edition, I completely understand the aggravation of someone who's collected and learned all that information about this classic campaign setting, to only have it completely upended by a 100-year move into the future, and big political and geographic changes.And even if you wanted to collect detailed information about the current Realms and the various regions of the continent, you can't because they haven't produced new modules for all those various areas (as far as I know). You're only going to be left with the brief overviews of various areas you get in the general 4th Edition Campaign Guide.For those reasons, I'm happy to stick to the classic Realms materials and maps. I'm just not interested in any of the changes they've made.I think it largely depends on what you got into when you first got into the Realms, though. If you (and I don't know if this applies to you specifically or not) got into the Realms during 4th edition, and learned everything from that perspective, then that might be the version you really gravitate to and prefer. If someone has been playing since they were a kid and learned the Realms from all the AD&D modules, and that's the Realms they've learned to love, then obviously they wouldn't be happy to have that changed. That feeling you feel about how they changed 4th edition after the second sundering or whatever, is probably the same feeling older Realms fans felt when they first introduce the 4th edition changes. But really, all these changes over the years over-complicates the setting. Another reason I personally prefer the original material developed for AD&D.</blockquote>

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