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<blockquote data-quote="Cap'n Kobold" data-source="post: 8063349" data-attributes="member: 6802951"><p>That is kinda the point. Clerics, Warlocks etc all get useful utility spells. At high level that is a lot of solutions to problems and chances to shine.</p><p>In terms of class capabilities, a wizard, cleric or warlock who is out of spells or has none applicable is down to just Ability checks with skill proficiencies.</p><p></p><p>Or, to put it bluntly: <em>A caster in their <strong>worst-case</strong> situation is at the same level of capability and opportunity as a fighter in their <strong>best-case</strong> situation.</em></p><p></p><p> In combat (ie "fighting") almost all classes have fairly equivalent capabilities. If you're looking for a class with the worst potential opportunities to contribute in combat, its <em>not </em>going to be a high-level caster.</p><p></p><p> Having charm person <em>does </em>make you better than someone that doesn't have it when socializing is involved. It is an additional option that the other person does not have; even if you never have to use it, you had the <em>option </em>of using it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cap'n Kobold, post: 8063349, member: 6802951"] That is kinda the point. Clerics, Warlocks etc all get useful utility spells. At high level that is a lot of solutions to problems and chances to shine. In terms of class capabilities, a wizard, cleric or warlock who is out of spells or has none applicable is down to just Ability checks with skill proficiencies. Or, to put it bluntly: [I]A caster in their [B]worst-case[/B] situation is at the same level of capability and opportunity as a fighter in their [B]best-case[/B] situation.[/I] In combat (ie "fighting") almost all classes have fairly equivalent capabilities. If you're looking for a class with the worst potential opportunities to contribute in combat, its [I]not [/I]going to be a high-level caster. Having charm person [I]does [/I]make you better than someone that doesn't have it when socializing is involved. It is an additional option that the other person does not have; even if you never have to use it, you had the [I]option [/I]of using it. [/QUOTE]
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