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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tales and Chronicles" data-source="post: 8066702" data-attributes="member: 6871653">Depending on said magic stuff (which is at the DM discretion, so in now way a guarantee), I think that's pushing it a litte.To quote [USER=6795602]@FrogReaver[/USER] '' and if you want your character to make a pact with the devil, or say your magic powers comes from a dragon ancestors, then go for it, you do not need rules for that, do you?'' Yet both of them are considered to be enough, not only to be a feature, but to be full classes! The fact than a character can use a rule does not mean it removes the need for a narrative concept where a character gain special features by using them, over what the others can normally gain from it.</blockquote>