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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Olrox17" data-source="post: 8996300" data-attributes="member: 6801397">Ok, let's ignore everything that happens above 10th level, for the reason you cited.A 5th TWF level fighter (standard array) will have 16-17 STR or DEX, TWF fighting style and the dual wield feat. This fighter, using its attack and bonus actions, will make 3 attacks, with +6 to hit, each of them doing 1d8+3 damage. Against an average of AC 13, that's a DPR of 16,875.Let's make a 5th polearm master level fighter (standard array). It will have 16-17 STR, defense fighting style (mostly chosen for ease of comparison) and the polearm master feat. This fighter, using its attack and bonus actions, will make 3 attacks, with +6 to hit, two of them doing 1d10+3 damage, one doing 1d4+3. Against an average of AC 13, that's a DPR of 16,875, the exact same of the TWF. They also have the same AC (dual wield vs defense style). The Polearm Master, however:<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">has reach</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">can make opportunity attacks when enemies enter its reach</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">has a slightly more damaging opportunity attack, in general</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">its action surge attack action does more damage</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">if both characters find a single powerful magic weapon, the polearm master will benefit more from it</li> </ul>I'd argue the polearm master is ahead of the TW fighter, and would get more ahead if higher levels see play.Let's try with an hypothetic greatsword user. It has have 18-19 STR (it picked ability score increase at 4th) and defense fighting style (again for ease of comparison). This fighter, using its attack action, will make 2 attacks, with +7 to hit, each doing 2d6+4 damage. Against an average of AC 13, that's a DPR of 17,6 slightly more than the TW fighter. They also have the same AC.This Greatsword fighter, however:<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">doesn't have to waste its bonus action every round. It can freely second wind without losing damage, for example</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">has a substantially more damaging opportunity attack</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">its action surge attack action does considerably more damage</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">if both characters find a single powerful magic weapon, the greatsword user will benefit more from it</li> </ul>Only thing the TW fighter has over this greatsword fighter is, I believe, less wasted damage on overkills. I'd still pick this over the TW fighter everyday tbh (and so have all my players for almost 10 years of campaigns - rogue excluded ofc).If I'm building the TW fighter wrong, please tell me, but what I'm seeing is it falling off as early as 5th level.</blockquote>

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