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<blockquote data-quote="DEFCON 1" data-source="post: 9569029" data-attributes="member: 7006">The 'horrid' and 'fockery' were not referencing DMs in general (whether they follow rules or not), but rather the ones that Ezekiel has had to deal with over their time with the game (as anyone who reads a lot of their posts know they've had to deal with a lot of crap DMs.)And in any case, my comments were referencing back to a statement they made that said that a DM would make a player lose the spell if the player said they were casting a charm effect on a goblin (now that they aren't humanoid and thus not a valid target.)&nbsp; If that was actually the case, that's the kind of 'fockery' that I was referring to from whom I would then consider to be a 'horrid' DM.The DM not let the spell work on the goblin anymore?&nbsp; Fine!&nbsp; Cool.&nbsp; But punishing the player because the player hadn't read the new MM to realize goblins were now fey?&nbsp; Bad DM as far as I'm concerned, and not in any way a normal situation or one that most players would ever have to deal with.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="DEFCON 1, post: 9569029, member: 7006"] The 'horrid' and 'fockery' were not referencing DMs in general (whether they follow rules or not), but rather the ones that Ezekiel has had to deal with over their time with the game (as anyone who reads a lot of their posts know they've had to deal with a lot of crap DMs.) And in any case, my comments were referencing back to a statement they made that said that a DM would make a player [I]lose the spell[/I] if the player said they were casting a charm effect on a goblin (now that they aren't humanoid and thus not a valid target.) If that was actually the case, that's the kind of 'fockery' that I was referring to from whom I would then consider to be a 'horrid' DM. The DM not let the spell work on the goblin anymore? Fine! Cool. But punishing the [I]player[/I] because the player hadn't read the new MM to realize goblins were now fey? Bad DM as far as I'm concerned, and not in any way a normal situation or one that most players would ever have to deal with. [/QUOTE]

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