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<blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 9569076" data-attributes="member: 6790260"><p>But that's exactly what the rules say. If you attempt to cast the spell on a target that doesn't qualify, <em>the spell fails</em>. That's the whole point.</p><p></p><p>Edit: To be clear, if things were meant to work the way you describe, they would be written differently. For example, they would specify things like "You pick one humanoid you can see..." or similar. Doing it that way, you'd never even be allowed to <em>attempt</em> the spell in the first place, because it just isn't capable of targeting a non-humanoid creature. Your action is aborted before you even attempt it.</p><p></p><p>The way <em>crown of madness</em> is written is very intentional: trying to use it on a non-humanoid results in the spell being functionally wasted, even though it did in fact fire. This is, quite clearly, the design intent of this spell. There is no reason to include the explicit statement that a non-humanoid automatically succeeds on the saving throw if it weren't intended that a non-humanoid would automatically succeed, and thus waste the spell.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="EzekielRaiden, post: 9569076, member: 6790260"] But that's exactly what the rules say. If you attempt to cast the spell on a target that doesn't qualify, [I]the spell fails[/I]. That's the whole point. Edit: To be clear, if things were meant to work the way you describe, they would be written differently. For example, they would specify things like "You pick one humanoid you can see..." or similar. Doing it that way, you'd never even be allowed to [I]attempt[/I] the spell in the first place, because it just isn't capable of targeting a non-humanoid creature. Your action is aborted before you even attempt it. The way [I]crown of madness[/I] is written is very intentional: trying to use it on a non-humanoid results in the spell being functionally wasted, even though it did in fact fire. This is, quite clearly, the design intent of this spell. There is no reason to include the explicit statement that a non-humanoid automatically succeeds on the saving throw if it weren't intended that a non-humanoid would automatically succeed, and thus waste the spell. [/QUOTE]
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