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<blockquote data-quote="Sadras" data-source="post: 7345498" data-attributes="member: 6688277">Agree. The sequence of&nbsp; PC declarations might also affect secret backstory. For instance, PC declarations going after the goblins would probably not affect the Iron Ring, they have gotten what they wanted they have no further use for the goblins, however should they go to the ruins and bring down an Iron Ring outpost that is likely to get the attention of the organisation and repercussions in the story would not be out of the ordinary. Sure, for this action to be declared I would imagine that the possible existence of the map at the location (whether it be a dungeon/manor or a specific room) has already been conferred to the PCs.It would be collaborative storytelling if the existence of a map was established by player authorship as part of the success of a SC.Is the originator/s and his/her/their motivations secret backstory (by the GM)?&nbsp; Understood. Have you ever had the experience where a PC's desired authorship was merely to establish someone as the culprit in order to justify entering combat?i.e. Fingers falling out of the pocket of the Big Evil Bad Guy to establish that he was in fact the murder (the victim had lost their fingers) to justify combat.How do you as DM manage such player authorship?In your game would you be averse to the absence of foot prints if it were due to an ability (magical or otherwise) or is that ability perhaps only alluded to (created) due to a failed SC?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Sadras, post: 7345498, member: 6688277"] Agree. The sequence of PC declarations might also affect secret backstory. For instance, PC declarations going after the goblins would probably not affect the Iron Ring, they have gotten what they wanted they have no further use for the goblins, however should they go to the ruins and bring down an Iron Ring outpost that is likely to get the attention of the organisation and repercussions in the story would not be out of the ordinary. Sure, for this action to be declared I would imagine that the possible existence of the map at the location (whether it be a dungeon/manor or a specific room) has already been conferred to the PCs. It would be collaborative storytelling if the existence of a map was established by player authorship as part of the success of a SC. Is the originator/s and his/her/their motivations secret backstory (by the GM)? Understood. Have you ever had the experience where a PC's desired authorship was merely to establish someone as the culprit in order to justify entering combat? i.e. Fingers falling out of the pocket of the Big Evil Bad Guy to establish that he was in fact the murder (the victim had lost their fingers) to justify combat. How do you as DM manage such player authorship? In your game would you be averse to the [I]absence of foot prints [/I]if it were due to an ability (magical or otherwise) or is that ability perhaps only alluded to (created) due to a failed SC? [/QUOTE]

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