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<blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 7350876" data-attributes="member: 82106"><p>My desire to participate in an activity with other people that I'm playing a game with? Its no different from the cause of me rolling dice if the game was craps, that's what the social convention of the game indicates is my 'move' at that point. NOTHING else is causal. Concepts DO NOT CAUSE THINGS TO HAPPEN. Our brain state, the thoughts we have, which are the result of thinking about these concepts (and of many other things) lead to our taking actions (IE cause those actions).</p><p></p><p></p><p>Lol, perhaps, but we'll let it slide... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>I don't think 'first cause' is really relevant here. We are DEEP (billions of years at the very least) into a vast network of causes and effects. I don't think the nature of a putative first cause has very much bearing on anything taking place at my kitchen table right now, except in a very remote sense.</p><p></p><p>If we were to consider actually bringing out the philosophical guns though, I beg you to consider the Principle of Dependent Origination...</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I think its fuzzy thinking when you use the same term to describe how your thinking evolved, in a psychological sense, and how physical object's interactions are related. I'm going to leave [MENTION=42582]pemerton[/MENTION] to invoke Hume, but I highly suspect such an invocation would be instructive.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AbdulAlhazred, post: 7350876, member: 82106"] My desire to participate in an activity with other people that I'm playing a game with? Its no different from the cause of me rolling dice if the game was craps, that's what the social convention of the game indicates is my 'move' at that point. NOTHING else is causal. Concepts DO NOT CAUSE THINGS TO HAPPEN. Our brain state, the thoughts we have, which are the result of thinking about these concepts (and of many other things) lead to our taking actions (IE cause those actions). Lol, perhaps, but we'll let it slide... ;) I don't think 'first cause' is really relevant here. We are DEEP (billions of years at the very least) into a vast network of causes and effects. I don't think the nature of a putative first cause has very much bearing on anything taking place at my kitchen table right now, except in a very remote sense. If we were to consider actually bringing out the philosophical guns though, I beg you to consider the Principle of Dependent Origination... I think its fuzzy thinking when you use the same term to describe how your thinking evolved, in a psychological sense, and how physical object's interactions are related. I'm going to leave [MENTION=42582]pemerton[/MENTION] to invoke Hume, but I highly suspect such an invocation would be instructive. [/QUOTE]
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