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<blockquote data-quote="Lanefan" data-source="post: 7359135" data-attributes="member: 29398">While I prefer the &quot;living, breathing world&quot; model I'm also quite happy with &quot;no retries&quot;, based on the assumption that the roll you made represents your best attempt of several or many, depending on the specific situation; which to me is quite realistic.Agreed.&nbsp; I just wanted to point out it's not always DMs who go bad; players can too.It's a fine distinction but worth noting, in how we're looking at this: you're saying the resolution mechanics are what introduces the content, where I'm going one step further back and saying it's the player introducing it if the gatekeeping mechanics allow via success on a roll.The mechanics themselves can't introduce anything; they have to be triggered by something.Where to me the point of action declarations is to interact with (and maybe change) the fiction that's already there, be it fiction the player/PC knows about (there's an orc whose presence is known by all, my action declaration of attack tries to change its state from healthy to unhealthy, or dead) or doesn't know about (there's a secret door in the south wall which won't be found if nobody looks for it and might be found if someone does).Lanefan</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Lanefan, post: 7359135, member: 29398"] While I prefer the "living, breathing world" model I'm also quite happy with "no retries", based on the assumption that the roll you made represents your best attempt of several or many, depending on the specific situation; which to me is quite realistic. Agreed. I just wanted to point out it's not always DMs who go bad; players can too. It's a fine distinction but worth noting, in how we're looking at this: you're saying the resolution mechanics are what introduces the content, where I'm going one step further back and saying it's the player introducing it if the gatekeeping mechanics allow via success on a roll. The mechanics themselves can't introduce anything; they have to be triggered by something. Where to me the point of action declarations is to interact with (and maybe change) the fiction that's already there, be it fiction the player/PC knows about (there's an orc whose presence is known by all, my action declaration of attack tries to change its state from healthy to unhealthy, or dead) or doesn't know about (there's a secret door in the south wall which won't be found if nobody looks for it and might be found if someone does). Lanefan [/QUOTE]

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