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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Campbell" data-source="post: 7369852" data-attributes="member: 16586">[MENTION=23751]Maxperson[/MENTION]I do not think [MENTION=42582]pemerton[/MENTION] is speaking about your game specifically in his criticism of GM Driven play unless you run a game that is very close to the Dragonlance/Ravenloft Modules or Vampire - The Masquerade, AD&D 2e and 5e as explicitly described by their GMing texts. There is no way to address your individual game unless we know more about the play environment, social layer, and play procedures actually used at the table. The only way to learn more about the play procedures in use is for you to say what they are?<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Do you plan out story and character arcs?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Do you adjudicate things based on what you would like to have happen?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Do you expect players to follow your lead?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Do you expect players to appreciate your world design for its own sake?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Do you follow the fiction wherever it might lead?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Do you reward skilled fictional positioning?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Does the social environment include an expectation of getting back on track to the GM's story?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Does everyone get the same rewards even if some players play passively while others actively contribute?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Do you design scenarios or plots?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Can players address a hook as they see fit or only in preapproved ways designed by you?</li> </ul>I do not mean to badger the witness here. I do think [MENTION=42582]pemerton[/MENTION]'s analysis can sometimes exclude other ways to play that are not either Sorcerer or 5e as described by the text of the DMG. The criticisms that I have personally for the current orthodoxy does not apply to sandbox games like early RuneQuest, Godbound, Stars Without Number or B/X D&D run according to their text.  Those games are my second favorite sort of game to be a player in. I also have my own criticisms about intent based resolution systems. One of the larger points of this thread I think is that it is useful to question the orthodoxy and take a critical look at why we do the things we do. It's also useful to see the dominant modes of play is a way to play role playing games and not the way.</blockquote>

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