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<blockquote data-quote="Ovinomancer" data-source="post: 7372222" data-attributes="member: 16814">This is highly disingenuous of you, as I didn't create the example and I was responding to your use of it exactly how you used it.&nbsp; It's difficult enough having this discussion, as you're now reacting as many did to [MENTION=42582]pemerton[/MENTION]'s original points in a very defensive manner to analysis of your preferred playstyle.&nbsp; This seizing on my using the example YOU used to try and paint me as being unreasonable isn't appreciated.Sigh.&nbsp; Nothing in my analysis says you can't do this.&nbsp; I'm pointing out that the primary focus of play is to cut to crisis.&nbsp; I think it's disingenuous to try to intimate otherwise.&quot;Crisis&quot; is the point at which the player's agenda is challenged.&nbsp; The framed situation is supposed to challenge the player's agenda in a way that will reveal something about it.&nbsp; The feather in [MENTION=42582]pemerton[/MENTION]'s example directly challenges the players belief:&nbsp; is this feather what I need.&nbsp; A success moves toward that goal, a failure causes the feather to be cursed -- which the player now needs to deal with before returning to his agenda.&nbsp; This is a crisis point -- either you succeed or you're dealt a serious setback (or failure) to your agenda.&nbsp; Take a look at the dictionary definition of crisis -- it doesn't mean &quot;catastrophe&quot; it merely means a point at which the future hinges.&nbsp; That seems an excellent description of the kind of things a GM is supposed to frame the player agenda into.Both you and [MENTION=42582]pemerton[/MENTION] have misunderstood the use of crisis and assumed some form of catastrophic situation.&nbsp; The feather was a crisis -- the resolution of the player action created a decisive change in the fiction.&nbsp; That's what a crisis is.&nbsp; I know it's a shock for someone to use the actual definitions of words in this thread, but that's me, I'm a rebel.Then the description of Story Now is a lie.&nbsp; Considering it's not, this is really just an example of you not grasping what I mean by crisis.&nbsp; And what I mean is the dictionary definition of the word.&nbsp; The job of the GM in a Story Now game is to go to the action and put the player's agendas into crisis.&nbsp; This leads to the snowball of play where consecutive crises create a memorable game.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ovinomancer, post: 7372222, member: 16814"] This is highly disingenuous of you, as I didn't create the example and I was responding to your use of it exactly how you used it. It's difficult enough having this discussion, as you're now reacting as many did to [MENTION=42582]pemerton[/MENTION]'s original points in a very defensive manner to analysis of your preferred playstyle. This seizing on my using the example YOU used to try and paint me as being unreasonable isn't appreciated. Sigh. Nothing in my analysis says you can't do this. I'm pointing out that the primary focus of play is to cut to crisis. I think it's disingenuous to try to intimate otherwise. "Crisis" is the point at which the player's agenda is challenged. The framed situation is supposed to challenge the player's agenda in a way that will reveal something about it. The feather in [MENTION=42582]pemerton[/MENTION]'s example directly challenges the players belief: is this feather what I need. A success moves toward that goal, a failure causes the feather to be cursed -- which the player now needs to deal with before returning to his agenda. This is a crisis point -- either you succeed or you're dealt a serious setback (or failure) to your agenda. Take a look at the dictionary definition of crisis -- it doesn't mean "catastrophe" it merely means a point at which the future hinges. That seems an excellent description of the kind of things a GM is supposed to frame the player agenda into. Both you and [MENTION=42582]pemerton[/MENTION] have misunderstood the use of crisis and assumed some form of catastrophic situation. The feather was a crisis -- the resolution of the player action created a decisive change in the fiction. That's what a crisis is. I know it's a shock for someone to use the actual definitions of words in this thread, but that's me, I'm a rebel. Then the description of Story Now is a lie. Considering it's not, this is really just an example of you not grasping what I mean by crisis. And what I mean is the dictionary definition of the word. The job of the GM in a Story Now game is to go to the action and put the player's agendas into crisis. This leads to the snowball of play where consecutive crises create a memorable game. [/QUOTE]

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