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<blockquote data-quote="Lanefan" data-source="post: 7375204" data-attributes="member: 29398">A question is slowly beginning to occur to me...let's see if I can phrase it at all clearly.If the game, here somewhat paraphrased, proceeds thusly:1. Player during char-gen specifies goals, beliefs etc. for her character, at least one of which includes a specific end point or problem to solve (e.g. free my brother from possession by a balrog).2. Player during play can set the success condition for an action declaraction to be a step toward solving that problem (I check the feather to see if it'll help against balrogs)3. Player can in effect repeat this as necessary, with variants, until the action declaration succeeds (PC has moved one step closer to freeing her brother)4. Player can repeat 2 and 3 above, each time getting another step closer to solving the problem provided the dice co-operate, until the fiction reaches a climax point5. At that climax point, player can specify the success condition being that the problem is solved (e.g. no more balrog in my brother).My question then is, particularly if the dice rolls go well for this player isn't this all just a slow-motion violation of Czege?&nbsp; In step 1 the player sets the problem, in steps 2-5 the player also sets the solutions and if the dice go her way she cannot be stopped from achieving them.&nbsp; Even if the dice don't go her way she can only truly be stopped at 5, with an outright fail on her roll in that climactic situation.Lan-&quot;Czegemate?&quot;-efan</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Lanefan, post: 7375204, member: 29398"] A question is slowly beginning to occur to me...let's see if I can phrase it at all clearly. If the game, here somewhat paraphrased, proceeds thusly: 1. Player during char-gen specifies goals, beliefs etc. for her character, at least one of which includes a specific end point or problem to solve (e.g. free my brother from possession by a balrog). 2. Player during play can set the success condition for an action declaraction to be a step toward solving that problem (I check the feather to see if it'll help against balrogs) 3. Player can in effect repeat this as necessary, with variants, until the action declaration succeeds (PC has moved one step closer to freeing her brother) 4. Player can repeat 2 and 3 above, each time getting another step closer to solving the problem provided the dice co-operate, until the fiction reaches a climax point 5. At that climax point, player can specify the success condition being that the problem is solved (e.g. no more balrog in my brother). My question then is, particularly if the dice rolls go well for this player isn't this all just a slow-motion violation of Czege? In step 1 the player sets the problem, in steps 2-5 the player also sets the solutions and if the dice go her way she cannot be stopped from achieving them. Even if the dice don't go her way she can only truly be stopped at 5, with an outright fail on her roll in that climactic situation. Lan-"Czegemate?"-efan [/QUOTE]

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