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<blockquote data-quote="Lanefan" data-source="post: 7389346" data-attributes="member: 29398">It's also possible, in the type of game I envision, for all the PCs to have their dramatic needs emerge during play rather than be pre-determined by the player before play begins.I completely disagree with this statement, in that character growth and development is very possible without any overt 'dramatic needs' or suchlike behind it.I know this because most of the characters I play grow and develop in exactly this manner.&nbsp; They don't (usually) have overt dramatic needs or goals beyond &quot;let's go adventuring: we'll get rich and-or die trying!&quot;.I'll freely admit that mine doesn't; but in my defense I'll also freely admit that neither I nor any of my players can hold a candle to JRRT's talent when it comes to authorship.You won't get much out of them but here's about 34 years' worth:<a href="http://www.friendsofgravity.com/games/telenet/index_telenet.html" target="_blank">Telenet</a> 1984-94<a href="http://www.friendsofgravity.com/games/riveria/index_riveria.html" target="_blank">Riveria</a> 1995-2007<a href="http://www.friendsofgravity.com/games/decast/index.html" target="_blank">Decast</a> 2008-presentThe adventure logs are very event-based and don't often (if ever!) go into character motivations or any of that stuff, and the older ones aren't all that detailed.&nbsp; But, they're all I've got... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Lan-&quot;and then you go on to quote Ron Edwards, which might just send me running for the hills about now&quot;-efan</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Lanefan, post: 7389346, member: 29398"] It's also possible, in the type of game I envision, for all the PCs to have their dramatic needs emerge during play rather than be pre-determined by the player before play begins. I completely disagree with this statement, in that character growth and development is very possible without any overt 'dramatic needs' or suchlike behind it. I know this because most of the characters I play grow and develop in exactly this manner. They don't (usually) have overt dramatic needs or goals beyond "let's go adventuring: we'll get rich and-or die trying!". I'll freely admit that mine doesn't; but in my defense I'll also freely admit that neither I nor any of my players can hold a candle to JRRT's talent when it comes to authorship. You won't get much out of them but here's about 34 years' worth: [url=http://www.friendsofgravity.com/games/telenet/index_telenet.html]Telenet[/url] 1984-94 [url=http://www.friendsofgravity.com/games/riveria/index_riveria.html]Riveria[/url] 1995-2007 [url=http://www.friendsofgravity.com/games/decast/index.html]Decast[/url] 2008-present The adventure logs are very event-based and don't often (if ever!) go into character motivations or any of that stuff, and the older ones aren't all that detailed. But, they're all I've got... :) Lan-"and then you go on to quote Ron Edwards, which might just send me running for the hills about now"-efan [/QUOTE]

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