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<blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 7394426" data-attributes="member: 42582">No more than they are &quot;winging it&quot; when they attack an orc! It's just action declaration and resolution.Why is trying to find a secret door less exciting than trying to fight your way out?This was discussed a long way upthread.Does the player automatically have the power to buy these potions from the Moon cultists? Does this action declaration actually let the player right down in his/her PC sheet &quot;10 Moon Cult potions&quot;? If not, then the player hasn't authored any solution at all.In my BW game, a player introduced Jabal of the Cabal as a NPC with whom he might make contact to find work. This didn't guarantee work, however - the resultant Circles check failed and Jabal send a thug to beat up the PCs and kick them out of town.In 4e I may well just say &quot;yes&quot;. Given the baseline assumption in 4e about the capacity of the players to have PCs spend gold for items, simply establishing an intriguing source of shadow walking (or whatever) potions probably doesn't do anything but add a bit of fun flavour to the game.Whether the PCs can actually buy the potions is a different matter. By default gold in 4e can be spent freely, but I think it's fair game to require a skill challenge in the appropriate circumstances (eg buying unusual potions from a mysterious cult).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="pemerton, post: 7394426, member: 42582"] No more than they are "winging it" when they attack an orc! It's just action declaration and resolution. Why is trying to find a secret door less exciting than trying to fight your way out? This was discussed a long way upthread. Does the player automatically have the power to buy these potions from the Moon cultists? Does this action declaration actually let the player right down in his/her PC sheet "10 Moon Cult potions"? If not, then the player hasn't authored any solution at all. In my BW game, a player introduced Jabal of the Cabal as a NPC with whom he might make contact to find work. This didn't guarantee work, however - the resultant Circles check failed and Jabal send a thug to beat up the PCs and kick them out of town. In 4e I may well just say "yes". Given the baseline assumption in 4e about the capacity of the players to have PCs spend gold for items, simply establishing an intriguing source of shadow walking (or whatever) potions probably doesn't do anything but add a bit of fun flavour to the game. Whether the PCs can actually buy the potions is a different matter. By default gold in 4e can be spent freely, but I think it's fair game to require a skill challenge in the appropriate circumstances (eg buying unusual potions from a mysterious cult). [/QUOTE]

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