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Message: <blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 7395903" data-attributes="member: 82106">Well, since Pemerton is, AFAIK fairly close to being on the opposite side of the Earth from me, we haven't actually played a game together. So I don't know for sure that we ARE advocating the same style exactly. I think there's things he's more into and vice-versa; so we may sometimes contradict each other. Its just diversity of opinion.I use them to inform my thinking on how to structure things. So, for instance, I COULD structure Pemerton's 'go to the bazaar and look for a thing to fight the demon' scenario into an SC. Now I would probably frame it such that actually arriving at the bazaar wouldn't be the very first step (for various reasons, but basically because too narrow a focus to an SC usually doesn't work). TBH I might even consider whether or not resolving that whole chapter of things might not be a single SC, but probably there isn't a good definable endpoint, whereas 'did I get a thing to meet my goal?' is pretty 'clean' in that respect. The point is, now I need a measure of how much 'fiction' is 'enough' to represent a final decision on this question and thus disposition (at least for the time being) of the question of whether or not the character achieved that goal. The SC could thus resolve down to either having a useful potent 'feather' or not, basically the same as Pemerton's scenario. I might however start my scenario with something like letting the character find a place to look for something, maybe its just one Streetwise check at the start of the challenge, and "go to the bazaar" is a potential result. Now I'd have to consider possibly OTHER results, presumably ones less favorable to the character's chances of success. Maybe questions are asked in the wrong place and the party ends up in the hands of a shill. Anyway, it can go from there. I will admit, this technique might be seen to drag things out in some sense, but it could also force some drama out of the mechanics, with players really working the game aspect of things to try to get to success on top of two failures, etc. It works (not surprisingly) a lot like 4e combat where the party sometimes has to 'dig deep' to overcome some purely dice mediated hardship.</blockquote>

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