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<blockquote data-quote="Bedrockgames" data-source="post: 7409086" data-attributes="member: 85555"><p>I realize you didn't specifically make this argument, but it has been suggested by others in other posts, other styles of play are not usually about 'playing gotcha' with adversary and obstacle placement. Just because a person isn't using fail forward or story now, it doesn't mean all the things they introduce are there to simply screw the players. Most GMs I know place things because they make sense to be there for some reason (i.e. this NPC really, really wants to protect his gold so he is going to place a clever and potentially lethal trap inside the main entrance to the vault). There are different points of view on how easy or hard that should be to figure and detect out in play. But if you are in a campaign where such a threat is hard to see, you know you are in such a campaign. You are not blind-sided when there is a lethal trap in the vault to the treasure, because you understand those are the kinds of threats that exist in this world (and you are probably not just going to walk straight into a vault).</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="Bedrockgames, post: 7409086, member: 85555"] I realize you didn't specifically make this argument, but it has been suggested by others in other posts, other styles of play are not usually about 'playing gotcha' with adversary and obstacle placement. Just because a person isn't using fail forward or story now, it doesn't mean all the things they introduce are there to simply screw the players. Most GMs I know place things because they make sense to be there for some reason (i.e. this NPC really, really wants to protect his gold so he is going to place a clever and potentially lethal trap inside the main entrance to the vault). There are different points of view on how easy or hard that should be to figure and detect out in play. But if you are in a campaign where such a threat is hard to see, you know you are in such a campaign. You are not blind-sided when there is a lethal trap in the vault to the treasure, because you understand those are the kinds of threats that exist in this world (and you are probably not just going to walk straight into a vault). [/QUOTE]

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