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<blockquote data-quote="Imaro" data-source="post: 7409214" data-attributes="member: 48965">Thanks for the &quot;education&quot; but forum posting isn't formal writing so I think it'll be fine if I continue to use it, especially since the &quot;word&quot; has been in use since 1927 according to Merriam.&nbsp; Oh and technically not generally accepted it is in fact a word.&nbsp; Here you go teacher...<a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/irregardless" target="_blank">https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/irregardless</a>Ok now we are getting into your particular house rules but standard 4e let's the GM set the difficulty and none of it's outlined play procedures call for you to explicitly discuss said ruling with the players.&nbsp; You modify a game enough and you can get it to do anything. The red dragon doesn't have to be a &quot;gotcha&quot; impossible foe.&nbsp; Is talking, bribing, sneaking past it, etc... not options in Story Now?&nbsp; Even if for some reason the only possible choice they have is to leap head long into a battle with the dragon... I stated they have a slim chance to win... and couldn't they loose the battle and not fail forward in Story Now?&nbsp; So I'll ask again, is the GM's choice of adversaries a limiter on player agency in the way @<a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=42582" target="_blank">pemerton</a> defines it?I know this isn't addressed to me but this really feels extremely limiting as a GM... I'm starting to realize that this playstyle, while great for those who enjoy it (and I could definitely see myself stealing some techniques from it) just doesn't deliver what I want out of GM'ing a game.&nbsp; In the same way that the players are free to control their characters I want a way to express my creativity that doesn't involve a committee decision to ok it.&nbsp;&nbsp; Can I ask in this style what exactly does the GM own (in the same way players own their characters)... it's not the world, it's not the setting, it's not the adversaries, it's not the genre... so what exactly is it?&nbsp; Or does the GM ultimately own nothing, have no outlet for his creativity that doesn't involve the other players approval whether implicitly or explicitly given?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Imaro, post: 7409214, member: 48965"] Thanks for the "education" but forum posting isn't formal writing so I think it'll be fine if I continue to use it, especially since the "word" has been in use since 1927 according to Merriam. Oh and technically not generally accepted it is in fact a word. Here you go teacher... [URL]https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/irregardless[/URL] Ok now we are getting into your particular house rules but standard 4e let's the GM set the difficulty and none of it's outlined play procedures call for you to explicitly discuss said ruling with the players. You modify a game enough and you can get it to do anything. The red dragon doesn't have to be a "gotcha" impossible foe. Is talking, bribing, sneaking past it, etc... not options in Story Now? Even if for some reason the only possible choice they have is to leap head long into a battle with the dragon... I stated they have a slim chance to win... and couldn't they loose the battle and not fail forward in Story Now? So I'll ask again, is the GM's choice of adversaries a limiter on player agency in the way @[I][B][U][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=42582"]pemerton[/URL][/U][/B][/I] defines it? I know this isn't addressed to me but this really feels extremely limiting as a GM... I'm starting to realize that this playstyle, while great for those who enjoy it (and I could definitely see myself stealing some techniques from it) just doesn't deliver what I want out of GM'ing a game. In the same way that the players are free to control their characters I want a way to express my creativity that doesn't involve a committee decision to ok it. Can I ask in this style what exactly does the GM own (in the same way players own their characters)... it's not the world, it's not the setting, it's not the adversaries, it's not the genre... so what exactly is it? Or does the GM ultimately own nothing, have no outlet for his creativity that doesn't involve the other players approval whether implicitly or explicitly given? [/QUOTE]

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