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<blockquote data-quote="Aldarc" data-source="post: 7411015" data-attributes="member: 5142">So glad that you could return the favor then with your own hot mess. The problem is that Max does not stop at &quot;I maximize the amount agency possible,&quot; but also makes claims of percentile subtraction and addition, and in regards to differing systems of agency, and turning this into a matter of dubious maths. The problem is that agency cannot be measured, except as you mention before in relation to some presumed standard of agency. These tend to be less about quantitative assessments but qualitative ones. Children may ask their parents for example &quot;Who do you love more?&quot; but with the understanding that this question cannot be substantiated, measured, or quantified, but will be qualitatively discussed. I'm so glad that you spent one sentence out of your wall of text to say that you liked something that I wrote only to follow it up with eight sentences where you completely undermine that with ignorance of my argument. What are you talking about? Please do not read things into my statements that are not there. Or make claims about my arguments that are not there. Do not make strong claims about &quot;[my] style&quot; when I have said little to nothing in this thread about what my preferred style is. My last statement is not meant to be self-righteous at all. And when I re-read my own statement, I see an absence of &quot;vinegar.&quot; These sort of misreadings kinda undercut the accuracy of your assessments and ventures into more veiled personal attacks, Ovinomancer. I can't say that I'm a fan of it.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Aldarc, post: 7411015, member: 5142"] So glad that you could return the favor then with your own hot mess. The problem is that Max does not stop at "I maximize the amount agency possible," but also makes claims of percentile subtraction and addition, and in regards to differing systems of agency, and turning this into a matter of dubious maths. The problem is that agency cannot be measured, except as you mention before in relation to some presumed standard of agency. These tend to be less about quantitative assessments but qualitative ones. Children may ask their parents for example "Who do you love more?" but with the understanding that this question cannot be substantiated, measured, or quantified, but will be qualitatively discussed. I'm so glad that you spent one sentence out of your wall of text to say that you liked something that I wrote only to follow it up with eight sentences where you completely undermine that with ignorance of my argument. What are you talking about? Please do not read things into my statements that are not there. Or make claims about my arguments that are not there. Do not make strong claims about "[my] style" when I have said little to nothing in this thread about what my preferred style is. My last statement is not meant to be self-righteous at all. And when I re-read my own statement, I see an absence of "vinegar." These sort of misreadings kinda undercut the accuracy of your assessments and ventures into more veiled personal attacks, Ovinomancer. I can't say that I'm a fan of it. [/QUOTE]

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