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<blockquote data-quote="Bedrockgames" data-source="post: 7420031" data-attributes="member: 85555">This is why I brought up popularity. I think the proof is in pudding here. In my view 4E did go very hard in the direction of balance by encounter. And I think that pretty obviously drove away a lot of fans. Now they seem to be trying a middle approach all around. Not just in terms of daily balance versus encounter balance; but a much more moderate approach to balance in general (just look at Mearls comment on Fireball). I'd say this is a much healthier approach for long term. You are guys are arguing for moving hard in the direction of one particular preference. But the problem is D&amp;D is not a single serve game. You are making a meal for lots of people and they tend to have mixed preferences. The reason this made 4E a problem at my table when it came out, was we could only every get about 1/4th of the group enthused about it. Now that 1/4th was very enthused. But the rest just rwere not. And this was at a table that isn't afraid to play all kinds of games.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Bedrockgames, post: 7420031, member: 85555"] This is why I brought up popularity. I think the proof is in pudding here. In my view 4E did go very hard in the direction of balance by encounter. And I think that pretty obviously drove away a lot of fans. Now they seem to be trying a middle approach all around. Not just in terms of daily balance versus encounter balance; but a much more moderate approach to balance in general (just look at Mearls comment on Fireball). I'd say this is a much healthier approach for long term. You are guys are arguing for moving hard in the direction of one particular preference. But the problem is D&D is not a single serve game. You are making a meal for lots of people and they tend to have mixed preferences. The reason this made 4E a problem at my table when it came out, was we could only every get about 1/4th of the group enthused about it. Now that 1/4th was very enthused. But the rest just rwere not. And this was at a table that isn't afraid to play all kinds of games. [/QUOTE]

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